What the hell is going on

[bigaristotel]

Seriously, how is it possible?
Makuria is shia.
Mamluks are sunni.
Alodia is coptic.
How can Makuria get PU over Alodia?
Why there's succession war between muslims?
What is going on?

 

[Badesumofu]

Alodia is Christian. Christians can be PUed. Muslims cannot be PUed but can have PUs. It's hard for various reasons to actually get PUs as a Muslim since you can't RM Christians.

 

[qwertzuiop]

It's not a bug. Muslim countries can lead PUs. Any religion can lead PUs, but only Christians can ever become the junior partner of a PU.

The thing is just that it usually doesn't happen because Christians cannot marry non-Christians which also means that they rarely share dynasties. Now, there are two ways I'm aware of that can make them share dynasties:

1. If country A converts to another religion while they already have the same dynasty as country B

2. If "a local noble succeeds to the throne" in a country, there will be a new dynasty and it's entirely possible that this dynasty already exists in another country of the same culture

 

[Bouchart]

There's some weirdness with rivals being able to go to war to contest personal unions on a ruler's death. That can also allow a republic to lead a personal union.

 

[Zephyrum]

Huh. That's new to me, didn't know the christian PU lock was exclusively to being the minor.

 

[atwix]

this happened also when monastic orders could get non christian 'dynasties' like osmanoglu with their hochmeisters. they then secularized while having osmanoglu, and fell in union under ottomans.

that got fixed; the dynasty list got reduced to christians.

seems with last dlc, the developers didn't take into account that mamluks can assign slave king from christian regions to south (right? never tried mamluks and their dynasty system yet) and then be eglible to contest a union due to sharing dynasty.


but in all honesty, if mamluks isn't coptic, then this looks weird.

i never even KNEW a non christian can contest unions if sharing dynasty with an heirless same dynasty christian nation.

tha mamluks are the attacker in this succession war, which kind of confuses me.

 

[braunschweig1]

Makuria gets an event to turn Sunni, IIRC, so they probably got Alodia in PU early, turned Sunni, then they got "Heresy" event and flipped.

 

[bigaristotel]

Starnan said that they aware of this issue. So seems like a bug

 

[Ultima_Ratio]

Alodia and Makuria start with the same dynasty.

 

[qwertzuiop]

Starnan said that they aware of this issue. So seems like a bug

Well perhaps the situation wasn't intended by the developers, but it has definitely been in the game for a very long time and it has been working consistently.