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Yeah it's a new features of the Legacy of Rome DLC, the Byzantines can blind their prisoners, although I'm not sure on the details of what this means for the character, and they can also castrate them, which has obvious results and uses.
 

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I first thought it was a bug but then I got reminded again by this thread that you can blind people. Although I was kind of expecting some kind of blindfold over the character's eyes. Not some evil-looking, vile person that makes you want to run away from your destkop lol.
 

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From what I understand, the blinding was done with a metal rod that was used to gauge out or just mash the eyes, or a heated rod to burn them. Yummy!

As far as I know the youngest person to suffer this fate was the 11-year-old Ioannes IV Laskaris in 1261.
 

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From what I understand, the blinding was done with a metal rod that was used to gauge out or just mash the eyes, or a heated rod to burn them. Yummy!

As far as I know the youngest person to suffer this fate was the 11-year-old Ioannes IV Laskaris in 1261.

Damn that beats the torture practises of the inquistion although on a second those were painful too. Though I don't understand why they atleast wouldn't wear a blindfold in the portrait. Weren't people with mutilations and scars considered to be devils in human disguises back then or something like that?
 

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Damn that beats the torture practises of the inquistion although on a second those were painful too. Though I don't understand why they atleast wouldn't wear a blindfold in the portrait. Weren't people with mutilations and scars considered to be devils in human disguises back then or something like that?
At least in The Alexiad blinded people are treated as just people that have lost their eyes as a punishment for being on the losing side. In fact, the book mentions one blinded ex-rebel accompanying Alexios I to his campaigns against Scythians (the folks in Romania).
Quoting the book, "'I will tell you this, my Emperor: if you cross the Haimos, you will appreciate the fastest horses.' Someone asked him what he meant. 'For when you flee,' he replied, 'all of you.' This Bryennios, although he had lost his eyes because of a revolution, was recognized to be a foremost authority and expert on strategy and tactics."

You revolted against the wrong person and you lost your eyes, you were by tradition considered incapable of being Emperor because Emperorship was mandated by God and God is perfect and a mutilated person can't thus be Emperor but besides that they were just normal people who often were allowed to live out their lives in monasteries.
 

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From what I understand, the blinding was done with a metal rod that was used to gauge out or just mash the eyes, or a heated rod to burn them. Yummy!

As far as I know the youngest person to suffer this fate was the 11-year-old Ioannes IV Laskaris in 1261.

That's in history, but in the game I saw that Emperor blinded doux, doxes wife and all 6 douxes children, even 3 yo girl...
 

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From what I understand, the blinding was done with a metal rod that was used to gauge out or just mash the eyes, or a heated rod to burn them. Yummy!

As far as I know the youngest person to suffer this fate was the 11-year-old Ioannes IV Laskaris in 1261.

blinding was done with an inflamed rod, bringing rod close to eyes making sclera drain because of the high temperature.

emperor romanos diogenes was blinded by doukas family after losing battle of manzikert, but then died because of infection. you can see him blind in the game after 1072
 
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You revolted against the wrong person and you lost your eyes, you were by tradition considered incapable of being Emperor because Emperorship was mandated by God and God is perfect and a mutilated person can't thus be Emperor but besides that they were just normal people who often were allowed to live out their lives in monasteries.

The original punishment was cutting off of the nose, this fell into disuse after Justinian II the Slit-Nosed proved that a mutilated person could take the throne (much to the dismay of those who cut off his nose). Blinding the opponent became the preferred method after this because in addition to mutilation it made the person much less able to function.
 

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From what I understand, the blinding was done with a metal rod that was used to gauge out or just mash the eyes, or a heated rod to burn them. Yummy!

As far as I know the youngest person to suffer this fate was the 11-year-old Ioannes IV Laskaris in 1261.

I also believe the Micheal VII Doukas was blinded when he was overthrown by Nikephoros III but I not sure. Anyways you can blind and castrate people if you are an Eastern Roman, I prefer castration especially if the tratiorus noble has not had kids yet then you won't have worry about angry decendents.
 

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Blinding & Castrating is cool & everything, but I keep seeing it so often it's not funny anymore. Half the vassals in byz were blind in one of my campaigns including me, even a 56 year old rogue duchess wasnt spared 0_o.
 

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Imprison them, and the option to Blind (or Castrate) should be in the "intrigue" decisions selection, if you are of the Byzantine culture group.
you should be careful though, especially if you have say four prisoners, ALL named Ioannes for example (hovering over the ? circle will show more details about the specific person the check button to the right of it will affect.)
 

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Considering just how often the AI blinds people I would actually rather have preferred a blindfold. After about your twentieth blinded old granny it does become a bit depressing to look at.
 

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This is a really nice function for the Greeks, especially great for those of us who collects human eyeballs for kicks.