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As a veteran of EU3, my first thought was to maintain +3, but it seems much more costly this time, and it doesn't take much to randomly drop it from an event, so I've mainly kept it at 0. I really don't like having to pay the vast increases in monarch points point over point, and when it costs the same as an idea, I just don't think it's worth it, regardless of the benefits (that I know of.) What do you think?
 

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I manually raise it to +1 if I have the ADM and then rely on events or missions to get to +3 if possible.
 

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I always try for +1 stability for the increased 10% tax modifier. Any higher is a waste unless I am facing massive ahead of time penalties in which case I push upto 2 or 3.
 

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So far it seems to be like every other mechanic, depends on the situation. When minorities abound early game it is the easiest way to keep them down, especially while conquesting. Having a 20 regiment revolt back home while my forces are deep in enemy territory has not been pleasant today. It happened to me 3 or 4 times...
 

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Keep it at zero, if an event comes up giving me +1 I raise it once before clicking on the event button to get 2 stability for the price of one.
 

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+1, manually going over that is very expensive and I only do it in very special circumstances.
 

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-1 or -2, so I can force-convert provinces.
 

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Depends entirely on how much stab costs. If I'm a Republic with a lot of +stab cost penalties, I'll park at 0. I've had games, though, where my stab costs were so low that I always kept it at 3.
 

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+1 or 0, depending on if I have the ADM points to burn or not. (Usually not, but you'd be surprised what a string of high ADM rulers can do for you).

Only time I'll go higher is through events or if I have the points to burn and a lot to convert to my religion.
 

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I've always tried to keep it at +3, but after hearing that +3 stability increases the chances of events that lower it. So I tend to keep it at +2 now. Events that give me more stability is a bonus.
 

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Explanation needed.

DG (standalone or part of MEIOU) has two options for converting religious minorities: peaceful conversion and forced conversion. The former requires high stability, is slower, and only lets you approach a province or two at a time. Forced conversion hits many provinces at once, which is great for large empires. It requires negative stability to go after the more resilient minorities, and can trigger a religious uprising, though.
 

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keep it at 0. The religious idea group has a few nice +1 stab events if you're interested
meh -_- going to 1 is as cheap as going from -2 to -1 or anything so i would say best is 1 (because its not higher cost until there)

DG (standalone or part of MEIOU) has two options for converting religious minorities: peaceful conversion and forced conversion. The former requires high stability, is slower, and only lets you approach a province or two at a time. Forced conversion hits many provinces at once, which is great for large empires. It requires negative stability to go after the more resilient minorities, and can trigger a religious uprising, though.

still dont get it. what is foced conversion ? mod ?
 
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