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ARGHHH ! I would sooooooooooo much like to lead the DDR ! :D
 

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Zanza said:
You can get more than 40% IC bonus from ministers, sliders and techs. I think about +65% or something is possible. So, even on very hard you can get a higher number in the middle.
True. I had forgotten to include the ICbonus for planned economy in my reflections above.

As all modifiers are taken separately of base IC:
Code:
Very Hard                     -40%
Tech                          +15%
HoG: Silent Workhorse          +5%
MoA: Administrative Genius    +10%
MoI: Industrial Specialist     +5%
[u]Planned Economy Max           +25%[/u]
MAX                           +20%

MAX w/o Planned Economy        -5%
MAX w/o Planned + Silent W.   -10%
So, on very hard, you are not going to get a higher number in the middle unless you have a planned economy in one of the three rightmost positions of the economy slider, and have developed the manufaturing techs or appointed the IC boosting ministers. This is certainly not for everyone, as only very few government types allows that degree of planned economy. :)

(I am of course ignoring the Prince of Terror/Efficient Sociopath as their effect is on conquered IC and already factored into the base IC separately)
 

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Now that we have all the majors and even some revolters out of the way, I have two rather strange requests for screenshots for anyone with the time to look for them.

1) ALI Tag stuff. Does it have research teams, government/leader files, what land does it have claimed if any, special sprites for their units, etc? Screenies of this would be awesome.

2) Pictures of the mysterious and apperently awe-inspiring Kenyan Air Force.
 
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2) Pictures of the mysterious and apperently awe-inspiring Kenyan Air Force.

Don't trust pictures. Pictures can lie. Just like all those UFO pictures. You need to be there, feel it, experience it... And nobody will believe that you saw the Kenyan Air Force and the Mau Mau Flying Circus... They will just tell you that "it meant nothing" "it was south africa" or "you're on psilopsin, man"... Even I am sceptic but the current events are forcing me to change my stance regarding the existance of the Kenyan Air Force.
 
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German land doctrines


In 1936 and 1939


Before requesting pictures, try to look at already posted. I'm sure I did screenies of Canadian tech teams. German tech teams were also covered (1936 at least).
 

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PriestOfDiscord said:
1) ALI Tag stuff. Does it have research teams, government/leader files, what land does it have claimed if any, special sprites for their units, etc? Screenies of this would be awesome.
There is no revolter defined unter ALI tag, no tech teams, no ministers, no leaders. It's up to modders what exactly would be hidden behind this tag ;)
 

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Beckmann said:
Umm... Wolfsburg wasn't a part of the DDR, it was a part of the FRG. Please fix that! If not my mum and dad would have never met.
Report it as a bug if you feel it is one. hoi2bugs@paradoxplaza.com
 

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Aren't nations liberated with their core provinces only, as defined in revolt.txt? If East/West Germany were to be defined as encompassing the entirety of Germany on liberation...it could be problematic to get them into existence, unless you controlled the entirety of the country. Obviously, neither Alies nor Soviets occupied every single parcel of German land in 1949/50. Which brings up another point - both FRG and DDR came into existence two years after the game ends (if it proceeds historically).



Concerning Wolfsburg -

Even if the actual city was in FRG, it doesn't make sense to give the ENTIRE province to FRG. :eek:
 

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Code:
DDR = {
	date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1945 }
	expirydate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1947 }
	minimum = {
		298 299 300 301 296 297 310 309 311
	}
	extra = { 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 312 313 314 315 375 376 374 76 67 75 74 66 }
	capital = 300
	regular_id = GER
	intrinsic_gov_type = leninist
}
DFR = {
	date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1945 }
	expirydate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1947 }
	minimum = {
		80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 312 313 314 315 375 376 374 76 67 75 74 66
	}
	extra = { 298 299 300 301 296 297 310 309 311 }
	capital = 75
	regular_id = GER
	intrinsic_gov_type = social_liberal
}
As you can see, there are 'minimum' and 'extra' provinces defined :)
 

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@Lord Ederon:
For my "personal family history" it's definatly a bug. The email has been sent to the adress you stated.

By the way: The city was not named Wolfsburg until after the war. In the third reich this artificial city (which was built up by the nazis) was named "Stadt des KDF-Wagens" (english: "City of the KDF-car"). KDF= Kraft durch Freude (english=Strength through Joy).
After the war they changed the city's name to Wolfsburg following the name of the castle Wolfsburg, which is near the city.
 

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Renaming provinces is impossible - they are fixed, since the map is drawn.

As for Wolfsburg being a part of FRG, it still would not matter. The province happens to be named Wolfsburg, but it's not the city of Wolfsburg, it's a PROVINCE. That's not a reason to give DDR less land than it had in reality (as it is, DDR in the game looks smaller than it was, due to map irregularities).
 

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Thanks, thats the most interesting screenshot! (at least for me), too bad sometimes i cannot see the position of the sliders (and thus maximum effects, etc)

but, are all effects shown? I though central planning give IC bonus, but it isn't visible on the tooltip :confused:
 

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I think it might show the bonuses that you will have once you make the change.

By the way, could someone post a screenshot of RUS politics and techteams?
 

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Alexander, in terms of the province ownership after the war you are absolutly right, looking at the real map of the FRG and the DDR.

I know its a bit of a nitpick, but a province named Wolfsburg in '36 is a mistake. The castle Wolfsburg is a very small and unimportant castle during the time of Nazi-Germany and the province should be called after it's biggest city, not after a small landmark. If "city of the KDF-car" (which sounds wierd) isn't appropriate, the province should be called "Braunschweig" (population 245.894, Wolfsburg only has half as much). I know the map is hard-coded, but should that prevent me from reporting that info?

Sorry for having spammed this thread. I thank all screenshot-posters for their great work and commitment. It really makes waiting for my copy of HOI2 a lot easier.

Additional Information:
Wolfsburg
Braunschweig
Map of Post-WW2-Germany (the only one I could find)
 

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I just want to salute all you excellent people who have taken the time away from HoI 2 based Shnekshiness to give us poor wretches our screenie fix :D
 

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Dhatori said:
Perhaps Paradox plans on making a Cold War expansion "Return to Castle Wolfsburg"?

That's good. Nice play on words, though I'm not sure that is close enough to Wolfenstein to make it a pun. :D