What No Air supply in Hearts of Iron 4?

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It may not be just a technicality if the only way the game can make a connection between two supply areas (one encircled) is by an airfield., you may actually need a building like a port or an airfield to make that connection.

well i suppose, that is the best one can hope for given the circumstances (if in game), hopefully a clever work around that modders can use that you suggested (if not in game), still, didn't think much was wrong with the older system of supplying from the air.
 

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Are airfields even a constructable item in game? I didn't get the feeling that there are any more than the major airfields with only one per region.
 

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Are airfields even a constructable item in game? I didn't get the feeling that there are any more than the major airfields with only one per region.

I do not think they are, if I remember correctly you are right there is only one major airfield per State as seen on WWW and them not building any, it's a bit sad actually there's no Air Resupply missions if you can build transport planes they become only useful for one thing and at that they are warped to the destination with a in my opinion to high of a level of abstraction. I hope they consider an overhaul of the Air war to include this at a point after release because at this time it's a bit to abstract comparing from HOI3 to HOI4 the pendulum swung to far.
 
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Thank you Nelfe didn't know that, wonder why your not able to air supply then.
Ran out of time to code it. We will likely add it at some point in the future after release.
 
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Good to know.

Besides, a lot of major air lift operations were mostly disasters, afaik. Stalingrad being the most prominent one. Market Garden another one.

The Berlin Airlift only worked because the Soviets didn't opt to shoot the planes out of the sky. It took aircrafts landing every 5 minutes to keep the city from starving. I don't think there was ever so many planes available during WW2 to support such an action during wartime. And we are only talking food here! Forget about airlifting artillery shells, ammunition, spare rifles/guns, etc...
 

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Good to know.

Besides, a lot of major air lift operations were mostly disasters, afaik. Stalingrad being the most prominent one. Market Garden another one.

The Berlin Airlift only worked because the Soviets didn't opt to shoot the planes out of the sky. It took aircrafts landing every 5 minutes to keep the city from starving. I don't think there was ever so many planes available during WW2 to support such an action during wartime. And we are only talking food here! Forget about airlifting artillery shells, ammunition, spare rifles/guns, etc...
they did not only transport food itno berlin, bricks, coal, steel, construction machines etc., eveything a city needs to properly function.
 
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Besides, a lot of major air lift operations were mostly disasters, afaik. Stalingrad being the most prominent one. Market Garden another one.

Did you see my post about the flights over the Hump? Pretty sure that one was not a disaster at all.
 
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Ran out of time to code it. We will likely add it at some point in the future after release.
Then why didn't you just say so right away? Podcat, you damned troll.
 
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Ran out of time to code it. We will likely add it at some point in the future after release.
To be honest, this is a bad excuse especially then you have gotten extra time, yes I know things may not go the way you wan't which I think was the reason why you took all the extra time to change much of the game more to your and more to our liking.

But you talked about this feture a while ago, that it was VIP so you should have had quite some time to do this feture.

Basically this sound like the game will be released in the near future;)
 
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That is great news! thanks podcat,

It's a pity you didn't have a convoy system also for land forces? so as an army grows, you would have to keep the logisitcs side up to par with it, since transport trucks also suffer attrition, damage from air interdiction etc, but building a logistics corp in the same was convoys are built could have added an extra dimension to warfare. Assigning and dividing your army logistics convoys between armies to prioritize whom get supplied better if not enough convoys are in service.

Thanks for letting us know, extremely pleased this will be in at some stage. thanks again
 
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That is great news! thanks podcat,

It's a pity you didn't have a convoy system also for land forces? so as an army grows, you would have to keep the logisitcs side up to par with it, since transport trucks also suffer attrition, damage from air interdiction etc, but building a logistics corp in the same was convoys are built could have added an extra dimension to warfare. Assigning and dividing your army logistics convoys between armies to prioritize whom get supplied better if not enough convoys are in service.
You can prioritise a theater, and since a theater can include only one army, then you can prioritise an army if you want. You can also create logistics support companies, and you can choose to give them only to one specific army by giving them the relevant template(s).
 
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You can prioritise a theater, and since a theater can include only one army, then you can prioritise an army if you want.

Negative, Ghostrider, that's not true; review several (basically all) of the WWW concerning how many armies there were inside of the various theaters in the war. Daniel disbanded all of his theaters except one and so had one HQ managing everything.
 

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Negative, Ghostrider, that's not true; review several (basically all) of the WWW concerning how many armies there were inside of the various theaters in the war. Daniel disbanded all of his theaters except one and so had one HQ managing everything.

I think what potski is suggesting is that the player can if they wish create theatres with only one army so that they can prioritise a single army, you could even create a Theatre with an army that has only one Division which would mean you could prioritise a single Division, of course that would mean you would have a rather large portrait gallery on the bottom of your screen.


Mind you it must now mean that you cannot prioritise a single Division to receive equipment which seems a little odd.
 

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That is what I'm saying.

Plus you can prioritise certain Division templates. That could be used for elite forces or just to focus your logistics efforts to specific Divs. Just duplicate your main Infantry template, prioritise the new template and then swap the units in the army to use that template. But probably easier to create a theater of one army.

Perhaps you should review the WWW videos again, @Wraith11B ;)

There must have been a point where a new theater was created, and it only had one army in it. And you can see every time you select an army you get the option to create a new theater with that army in it. Daniel may have chosen to lump everything into one theater, but it's not a requirement. He could have more if he wants.

Edit: A screenshot posted in another thread, two theaters one with only a single army in it:
MRsTh70.jpg
 
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