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Something else that needs to be fixed: That fact that I have to wait to play the expansion!

I don't know what you're talking about, I can launch it on steam right now!
 
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Creating Jerusalem gives me a 0 legitimacy ruler. Nearly always, this results in a civil war. It also cost me my position as pope. Can we have some legitimacy as the ruler was our ruler before?
 
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Creating Jerusalem gives me a 0 legitimacy ruler. Nearly always, this results in a civil war. It also cost me my position as pope. Can we have some legitimacy as the ruler was our ruler before?

That sounds bad, I'll look into it tomorrow.
 
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When I'm saying major rework I'm talking about the fact that the peace code was pretty much torn out and rewritten from scratch (the old peace code was kind of a hopeless mess and the reason why there were so many bugs). Don't underestimate what a difference it is makes to able to negotiate for any province though.
Upcoming webcast showing off new war and peace mechanics and building hype to incredible levels? :)
(and driving people more crazy that they have to keep waiting... muhahahaha)
 

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When I'm saying major rework I'm talking about the fact that the peace code was pretty much torn out and rewritten from scratch (the old peace code was kind of a hopeless mess and the reason why there were so many bugs). Don't underestimate what a difference it is makes to able to negotiate for any province though.

I'm still terrified of this prospect and want to know:

When you say any province, do you mean ANY province? If England is allied to Brittany, and I declare war on them as Provence, and I 100% occupy their land, and I hold this despite England's blockades and landings for 5 years...

...can I potentially take never-occupied Wessex from not-warleader England in the peace deal?
 

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When I'm saying major rework I'm talking about the fact that the peace code was pretty much torn out and rewritten from scratch (the old peace code was kind of a hopeless mess and the reason why there were so many bugs). Don't underestimate what a difference it is makes to able to negotiate for any province though.

Ok, now things makes much more sense, ty!
 

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I'm still terrified of this prospect and want to know:

When you say any province, do you mean ANY province? If England is allied to Brittany, and I declare war on them as Provence, and I 100% occupy their land, and I hold this despite England's blockades and landings for 5 years...

...can I potentially take never-occupied Wessex from not-warleader England in the peace deal?

The AI will not negotiate for provinces unless you control some fortifications in the area (and can't be forced to via stabhit), so to demand land in England you have to invade the British Isles. You also can't demand provinces from allies of warleader unless you occupy them.

So no.
 
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The AI will not negotiate for provinces unless you control some fortifications in the area (and can't be forced to via stabhit), so to demand land in England you have to invade the British Isles. You also can't demand provinces from allies of warleader unless you occupy them.

So no.
Assuming they have fortifications there? i.e. England takes land in India but has no fortifications in the area. As an Indian nation I can still go after it and take it back?
 

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Please do this pleaaaaaaase!

By 'launch' I mean 'play it myself'. I'm obviously not going to release anything before the actual release date, I was just teasing.
 
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Assuming they have fortifications there? i.e. England takes land in India but has no fortifications in the area. As an Indian nation I can still go after it and take it back?

As an Indian nation you'll be able to negotiate for their Indian land if either
A) You have taken their forts in India
or
B) They have no forts in India

Similarly, if France attacks England and occupies Normandie, they can demand Normandie but not Wales.
 
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The attach to unit check box, may or may not work for allies. It has unpredictable results. I've lost many 1K units that way..... It needs to lock the other units in place dependibly. Maybe have a desired army with it. eg I would like 10 infantry and 10 cannons to attach to this army that I am leading (probably too complex, but oh well, it would be awesome).

Allow us to lead other nations units to war in overseas locations. It is difficult to attack England with allies the way things are. Of course, we could use this for evil by leaving them there, breaking the alliance, and declaring war on them....

Transfer siege control. I can take an allies province by moving out of the location and back in on the same day (if the ally follows me). I would like to be able to take over a siege leader if I am the war leader.

I would like a popup and pause when a rebellion reaches 90%. -- really, please do this!

I would like a build in best location button. I know I need more manpower. Can I just hit a button to build an arsenal in the best available location? Can I just build 5 temples where they would be most effective without having to scan my provinces for the best location?
 
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Is this thread only supposed to be for the reporting of actual bugs, or can we bring up anything we'd like to see fixed, even if it doesn't actually affect gameplay? Because if the latter, I'd still really like to see Colonial Louisiana renamed to Colonial Mississippi, for the reasons I outlined here. I acknowledge it's a pretty minor thing compared to a lot of issues people bring up, but I still think it's worth doing.
 
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As an Indian nation you'll be able to negotiate for their Indian land if either
A) You have taken their forts in India
or
B) They have no forts in India

Similarly, if France attacks England and occupies Normandie, they can demand Normandie but not Wales.
How wide an area does a fort effect? If England owns the entire Indina sub-continent, but only has a fort in, say, Ceylon, will I be able to demand, say, Nepal, or will I need to occupy Ceylon first?
 

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As an Indian nation you'll be able to negotiate for their Indian land if either
A) You have taken their forts in India
or
B) They have no forts in India

Similarly, if France attacks England and occupies Normandie, they can demand Normandie but not Wales.
Cool. That did seem like the most likely scenario.
 
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Peace system has received a major rework in 1.12 (it was detailed in one of the DDs) that also involved the fixing of pretty much every known issue with the peace screen.

Nice. This patch starts to look better and better with every new detail. And yes I really like and appreciate the other changes to peace deals too. No more ugly bordergore when you have to surround a capital for the AI to change it so you can later claim it. No more ENORMOUS diplo point cotsts for annexing a country where you have 9/10 claims but still have to pay full price for every province when you full annex.

Cant wait. :)
 
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Oh, I just remembered another bug: If, at the "chose a nation" screen, I open a save without loading it, and then go back to a historical bookmark and start a game, it will start a non-ironman game even if ironman was checked. Tiny, but annoying.
 
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