What is your overall impression for Waking the Tiger so far?

[Redswingarcus]

Maybe i was not fast enough reading te 4 pages but is it value for money,

Quite expensive for getting airborne supplies and i never play china mabe because i am born in Indonesia i prefer UK and Germany and maybe tried some time france, I doubt it is fun to fight germany tried to survive when trying to use ironman.

 

[kosmoface]

I LOVE it. Best DLC/Update so far. The game is coming together. Now a little bit more love for naval warfare and this game is truly fantastic.

 

[ricane]

have not played that much, but i formed the kaiserreich, and to my shock, i cannot ansluss Austria?? i cannot demand Sudetenland??, the dream of Wilhelm II was to unite all German speaking plp under one banner. it feels weird that you cant do this through the focus tree, going for the kaiserreich in general feels very underwhelming, your better of going with Hitler(that feels so wrong saying that)

The Chinese theater is much more interesting now, but it also feels cheesy and a bit unfinished, for example the border conflicts are ez to exploit and are just weird

 

[Broletariat90]

have not played that much, but i formed the kaiserreich, and to my shock, i cannot ansluss Austria?? i cannot demand Sudetenland??, the dream of Wilhelm II was to unite all German speaking plp under one banner. it feels weird that you cant do this through the focus tree, going for the kaiserreich in general feels very underwhelming, your better of going with Hitler(that feels so wrong saying that)

The Chinese theater is much more interesting now, but it also feels cheesy and a bit unfinished, for example the border conflicts are ez to exploit and are just weird

Since when was Wilhelm II a Pan-German Nationalist? You must be thinking of the other mustache guy.

 

[LakeClouds]

Utterly abysmal. Nothing that needed to be fixed was fixed. Supply is still a complete and utter mess. Large borders are now harder to manage due to the command system. Command points might as well be useless.

The AI is, if anything, worse now. Its not longer suicidal, but it no longer does anything. Played through to mid 1940's and not a single country could push another country. Everything just sat there, the most boring WW2 that ever occurred. Sure everyone was technically at war with everyone else, but no one could do anything. Its not like defense wasn't OP as is, so why not nerf every single offensive option, what did they think was going to happen apart from the game grinding to a complete halt?

I LOVE it. Best DLC/Update so far. The game is coming together

So it seems a consensus is forming???

 

[Johuotar]

It seems fun but is very buggy and many old and new focuses are going to need bypasses and other sanity checks. I really hope theyre going to keep patching these problems for long enough.

 

[llib]

Sadly AI still incredibly stupid in some aspects... Despite Yugoslavia taking out Bulgaria and thus protecting it's flank and only having to deal with Albania, on war start Greece decides it's best to counterattack Italians with one division, and rest is sent on the cruise around mediterranean. Somehow such selflessness is ... well, not quite real.

 

[paranoidsteve]

The AI seems to be reverting to past errors, just found 6 Nazi tank divisions in Ethiopia in January 1940, and checked to find over 60 Nazi infantry divisions in north Africa

 

[Ryousan2k]

Lots of Fun to be Had but tehre seem to be some issues in the way some Focus Trees are structured. While the idea of a shared branch of a Focus Tree is interesting there some issues in the way each Chinese Factions interacts with it: Machukuo for example, has two useless foci that get automatically bypassed (Renounce the inequal treaties and One China Policy). There seems to be also an issue with "pathfinding" drawing certain frontlines causes some divisions to "hide in corner" of teh front line, only to reposition when you declare war.

There also some balance and behavior issues: Fascist Minors joining the Co-Prosperity Sphere, Manchukuo not being able to take part in the CHinese Power Struggle, the Occasional Unholy Alliance. And a very annying bug with the Vassalising Focus which let the Warlords to escape their serfdom and rejoin the Chinese United Front

 

[jfinley12]

the production ai totally ruined my first game back Russia not building medium tanks is stupid. I own a lot of paradox games and this one is disappointing and has been for a long time its only salvation for me is my wife likes playing it with me she is usually a major and I try to play a support role to her and let her learn from mistakes. I guess in recap single player is a hot mess and multi player is fun if you dont play with a pro. I have no interest in joining games that I do not know people. I guess I will wait another year and see if they fix it.

 

[Snake_Squeezins]

Is the war in the Pacific any fun now? Carrier wars, island hopping, etc?

 

[Stolen Rutters]

I've had a few games on historical where things have gone completely crazy, the features added are a step in the right direction for content but I feel like the key problems with the game still remain.

They actually explained that in another thread. When the player takes a non-historical focus branch, the ai is freed from the historical path to allow it to adapt. They also admit that led to some wonky outcomes that they hope to address in the beta fix. Looking for post now. Edit-May take a minute. Wait for it. Edit2-ok I will try to remember to update if I can find it.

Edit 3- Back to the OP, I really really like the changes, and yes I notice bugs too, the latest opt-in beta fixed a fair number of them thankfully. The final 1.5.1 release should be much improved.

 

[mcmaha1]

From the experience I had with playing Communist China, historical Japan and democratic Germany, I really like it. It feels like a real great leap forward (pun intended without the implications). It gives much needed and deserved flavour to the far east. In general, the game feels like a superior product for it. I love the focus trees I tried, the new tracks, unit models and even the fact Germany now has operation Tannenbaum. I also like the new unit naming thing. It all adds a quite a bit of flavour to doing a historical run. However, I am sure there are new issues which I haven't seen yet, particularly when playing ahistorical. But overall, looking back, the game has made steady progress since release. Even though at times it has been slow and frustrating, the game is now in a very good place.

 

[NielsBohr]

I was only playing PRC two times now and it feels like the AI is in a much better shape now. I am actually pretty impressed. It seems to be much more difficult to win against it. At least for me.

The border conflict mechanic is not good/ not enjoyable IMO.

All in all I am super happy with the update and dlc so far.

i agree, the border conflict one is a strange mechanic imo, looks like it haven't finished yet