What is wrong with my trade in Ragusa?

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canin88

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No trade is being transferred to Venice despite my merchant steering trade and it saying that I transfer 5.52 ducats.
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Even when I try to collect trade, I don't collect anything.
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My other merchant in Constantinople is working fine (but is not helping me due to Ragusa!).
 

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From the looks of it you should be pushing around 5 ducats to Venice. Off the bat there are two issues:

1. Your merchant is currently collecting trade, rather than transferring trade power from Ragusa to Venice.
2. There are pirates in the node. Allocate a couple of galleys to pirate hunting in Ragusa to make them go away.

Also:

- Did you let a month tick? It kind of looks like you took the screenshot when the merchant arrived rather than immediately after the month ticked.
- Having a merchant in Constantinople isn't so useful, since the ducats will flow into Ragusa anyway. The merchant will be better off in Tunis or Alexandria (wherever you can pull the most ducats).
 

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I'm so stupid. I just had to wait for the next month! I guess I was fiddling around with the merchants too much.

I've moved my merchant from Constantinople to Wien which seems to give me the most money. But I still don't understand why I need a merchant in Ragusa to steer towards Venice but not in Constantinople.
 

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But I still don't understand why I need a merchant in Ragusa to steer towards Venice but not in Constantinople.

Ragusa has 2 exits for trade flow. You wanna steer it in the correct direction.

Constantinople only has 1 exit. So all trade will flow in that direction regardless how many who steer the trade.
 

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I've moved my merchant from Constantinople to Wien which seems to give me the most money. But I still don't understand why I need a merchant in Ragusa to steer towards Venice but not in Constantinople.

Merchants do 3 things:

1. Add 2 trade power (or more, when steering to or from an inland node)
2. Allows to pick in which direction the steered trade value goes
3. Increases the steered value by some percentage

Without a merchant in Ragusa:

1. Your trade power there will continue to contribute to what percentage of the value gets steered out of the node as normal, but
2. Other nations with a merchant that is steering get determine where the steered trade actually heads to; in Ragusa that will usually be towards Wien

Sidenote: Ragusa is a rather horrific node when you don't dominate the Wien node, because nations in Germany and Hungary all get their caravan bonus, whereas you need to throw light ships to match the caravan power that gets added for each nation with a merchant that is steering somewhere else.

edit: s/nation/merchant/
 
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Yeah, even if you own all provinces in Ragusa, you'll have less than half the total trade power because half of the HRE transfers to Wien, stacking their 50+ caravan power.

Personally, I feel that multiple nations transferring trade should have diminishing returns.