What is the treaty restricted number of ships limit for USA?
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It's not limited by number of ships, but by production cost
Carrier: 9500
Cruiser: 5300
Heavy: 10000
Hover over the spirit
Carrier: 9500
Cruiser: 5300
Heavy: 10000
Hover over the spirit
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Unlike the real treaty, which was by tonnage not number, the game doesn't have a hard limit. Instead it is based on Production Cost. The Base is the UK (unless for some reason they left the treaty, then I think it goes to the US).
Also unlike the real treaties, it doesn't split them by type (Carriers, Battleships/Battlecruisers, Cruisers (two categories)), but instead just lumps them all together (except the Light (Category B) Cruisers).
Again, unlike the real treaties, there is no ratio, so instead of the 5:5:3:1.75:1.75 all signatories just have to avoid going above (or at least not very far above) the leaders total.
Most games, the US will not be able to finish the 2 carriers and 3 heavy cruisers in their starting que without going above the limit and getting an ultimatum from the UK and/or France. This might have changed now that the AI actually keeps working on the ships in the UK starting que, but I haven't tested it recently.
Also unlike the real treaties, it doesn't split them by type (Carriers, Battleships/Battlecruisers, Cruisers (two categories)), but instead just lumps them all together (except the Light (Category B) Cruisers).
Again, unlike the real treaties, there is no ratio, so instead of the 5:5:3:1.75:1.75 all signatories just have to avoid going above (or at least not very far above) the leaders total.
Most games, the US will not be able to finish the 2 carriers and 3 heavy cruisers in their starting que without going above the limit and getting an ultimatum from the UK and/or France. This might have changed now that the AI actually keeps working on the ships in the UK starting que, but I haven't tested it recently.
There is a limit on capital ships. If you exceed UK's capital ship amount, they'll send you an ultimatum to reduce your capital ship amount. If you blow them off, they and I think anyone else who's a signatory of the treaty, get a wargoal against you.
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In the London Naval Treaty section of decisions, you can see in the description of the treaty what your relative strength in capital ships to the UK is.
Yes but the problem is without espionage you have no idea of telling exactly how many capital ships UK has.
Kind of a weird system because basically UK builds no capital ships (at least not in 1937) so USA will get a warning probably in 1939 long after the treaty is dead in the water.
Kind of a weird system because basically UK builds no capital ships (at least not in 1937) so USA will get a warning probably in 1939 long after the treaty is dead in the water.