What is the best nation to play as if I want to unite the HRE?

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If for some reason you want to conquer the HRE from the inside, either Brandenburg/Prussia or Italy are the best. But Austria can unite it diplomatically far, far faster.
 

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Currently none as Imperial Authority is broken (at least on all of my 1.4.1.1 games). When defending someone from an outside nation you get 5 IA from responding to the call and zero for winning the war. The severe lack of IA means you'll never be able to turn into one nation.
 

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Currently none as Imperial Authority is broken (at least on all of my 1.4.1.1 games). When defending someone from an outside nation you get 5 IA from responding to the call and zero for winning the war. The severe lack of IA means you'll never be able to turn into one nation.
Still there are some tricks, 1) annexing/releasing 2)convert to protestant/reformed and converting others
 

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My favorite is still Poland. If you suck up to Austria from the start, you should be able to get your capitol into the HRE early. Take down the orders and cripple Russia first, then focus on the HRE, taking 3 elector vassals to assure you the vote. Keep conquering in all other directions, and when the IA situation gets dicey: start adding all the provinces you grabbed into the HRE, gaining you huge amounts of IA in the process. When i did it i was able to enact 3 reforms in 1 day.
 

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I am trying to do this right now with Austria... as others pointed out it's rather tough...

but Austria has some really good things going for themself...
Burgundy inheritance
Historical decision for union with Bohemia
Massive amount of reputation (it's cca 1540 and I have something like 16-17 diplo rep)

Problem here is IA obviously... I have already made 3 reforms and I think I will have to cheese with releasing vassals and annexing... for example Bavaria gives 9 IA...
right now I am deciding if I will annex vassals (have 9 now and some of them ready) and later release after the diplo situation stabilizes or will try to milk some 50 IA from scrap now... have 0 manpower though... manpower seems to one of biggest obstacles in the perpetual wars

Couple of things that should be on your radar
1) After 2nd reform you have CB for liberation against outside nations
2) you can (and should) use different CB's to liberate nations inside HRE... Hesse/Hansa basically the north seems to me like some perpetual attempts at conquer... important thing here is that if the nation is annexed by member of HRE there is no IA lost.
So if you time it right you should get some quick IA if you liberate 3-4 nations at once
3) you really need to defend HRE if you already sit at some IA... if you are at 0... you probably could ignore it, since the diplo opinion cost is something like -50 which is improved by +11 each year, but if you already have some... every penny counts
4) you definitely need to vassal at least 3 electors, it's massive advantage

5) not sure about this, but seems to me that the Austrian +10 IA bonus is somewhat bugged, because when my emperor dies I get only 10 IA... but I should get some IA from continuous inheritance AND from the NI bonus (but really not sure how this one should work :), it says something like "10 bonus IA", but doesn't bother to explain where and when)
 

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My favorite is still Poland. If you suck up to Austria from the start, you should be able to get your capitol into the HRE early. Take down the orders and cripple Russia first, then focus on the HRE, taking 3 elector vassals to assure you the vote. Keep conquering in all other directions, and when the IA situation gets dicey: start adding all the provinces you grabbed into the HRE, gaining you huge amounts of IA in the process. When i did it i was able to enact 3 reforms in 1 day.

hmm interesting... when I tried joining provinces into HRE with my Burgundy game, I got like 2 IA from one province... there is some scaling involved? or you just added 50+ provinces at once?
 

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Definitely it is Austria. You have Burgundy Inheritance, pu with Hungary and Bohemia, plus your own conquest of France/Balkans. You can enact 7th reform(revoke privileges) before the reformation begins.