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Originally posted by Wrangel


And how can this be? it didnt happen untill the 1650s or even early 1700s... strange...
You're confusing the Brandenburg inheritance of Prussia with the "Claim the name of Prussia" thingy.
 

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Originally posted by celedhring


Brandenburg inherited Prussia in 1618. However, the Elector of Brandenburg didn't get the title of King of Prussia until 1701.

And you are sure of this?

I rasontly read that in the Swedish war against Poland in the 1650s, her ally Brandenburg occupied Prussia and later annexed them. But they still called them self Brandenburg. The name Prussia was taken in 1701.

Have I been missinformed?
 

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Originally posted by Wrangel


And you are sure of this?

I rasontly read that in the Swedish war against Poland in the 1650s, her ally Brandenburg occupied Prussia and later annexed them. But they still called them self Brandenburg. The name Prussia was taken in 1701.

Have I been missinformed?

I dug this up of the web, its about Prussia.

from :http://europeanhistory.about.com/gi...p://ln.infoplease.com/ce6/world/A0860564.html

"Through the secularization (1525) of the domain of the Teutonic Order by the grand master Albert of Brandenburg, the domain became a hereditary duchy under Polish suzerainty, ruled by a branch of the Hohenzollern dynasty of Brandenburg. In 1618 the duchy of Prussia passed through inheritance to the elector of Brandenburg, and in 1660, by the treaty of Oliva, full independence from Polish suzerainty was confirmed to Frederick William, the Great Elector. "
 

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Originally posted by Wrangel


And you are sure of this?

I rasontly read that in the Swedish war against Poland in the 1650s, her ally Brandenburg occupied Prussia and later annexed them. But they still called them self Brandenburg. The name Prussia was taken in 1701.

Have I been missinformed?

Not completely, what happened in the 50s was that it was fully freed from Poland's suzerainty, as IIRC, Hohenzollerns only inherited the Eastern part (which is what "Prussia" is in EU2)
 

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Originally posted by celedhring


Not completely, what happened in the 50s was that it was fully freed from Poland's suzerainty, as IIRC, Hohenzollerns only inherited the Eastern part (which is what "Prussia" is in EU2)

IIRC Eastern Prussia actually became a part of Brandenburg at the same time it was freed from Poland. But not western, because that was what the Sweeds wanted (they didn't get it in the end anyway but still...).
 

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Originally posted by celedhring


Not completely, what happened in the 50s was that it was fully freed from Poland's suzerainty, as IIRC, Hohenzollerns only inherited the Eastern part (which is what "Prussia" is in EU2)

East Prussia (i.e. Prussia in EUII) was known as ducal Ducal Prussia

West Prussia (the bit Prussia got in the first Partition) was know as Royal Prussia.

South Prussia (the bit Prussia got in the second Partition) was know as Posen.

New East Prussia (the bit Prussia got in the third Partition) was known as Mazovia
 

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Since there seems to be some Brandenburg-Prussia discussion, can someone "in the know" tell me if the Prussia inheritance event will ever be modified to give Brandenburg Baltic culture? It doesn't look like it made it into this patch, but I was just wondering if it may be in a future patch or if it is a dead idea.
 

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Doesn't it change Prussia's culture to German instead of giving Brandenburg Baltic culture?
 

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Originally posted by KlevesWarrior
Arg!! Now i have to hurry and finish my Austria game, damn you for being so fast Paradox, damn you!!:D

Finished my Austria game this morning. But I couldn't wait for 1.05 to play again, so I started a new game as Mecklemburg. I had tried them before but got invaded and annexed quick, so I thought they'd make for another quick game. But I've played up to 1500 already and I'm still alive. If the game keeps going this quickly (which it won't, it's back to work tomorrow), I might finish it before 1.05 is out, if the patch isn't ready until the weekend.
 

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Since there seems to be some Brandenburg-Prussia discussion, can someone "in the know" tell me if the Prussia inheritance event will ever be modified to give Brandenburg Baltic culture? It doesn't look like it made it into this patch, but I was just wondering if it may be in a future patch or if it is a dead idea.

I wouldn't count on Brandenburg getting Baltic culture... it was a pretty German-only country (as far as the ruling goes). Also, the province of Prussia changes culture to German with the event, so only Memel should be non-state culture (until the partition of Poland).
 

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Like the notification of a "rebel invasion". Really got to me to all of a sudden hear a cannon booming while I wasn't at war, only to find tht a province has been captured by some roving rebels.:)

(Hope the grammar police don't get me for splitting an infinitive!:eek:)
 

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Wow! I wonder if I belly dance for Mr. Patric if I would get it faster hoho!!:D
 

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Seriously I can hardly wait, how exciting lol!;)
 
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- When monarch attributes are modified, they should be restored correctly at the end of the period. That means that several modifications are cumulative until end of the longest period (like revolt risk), that the restoration works well even if the game is saved and loaded again, and that if the monarch dies, the next monarch is not affected in any ways.

So...does this mean that if you have a 72 month +3 revolt risk and get hit with a 12 month +1, we won't be getting +4 for 72 months like it is now?
 
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Presumably those Greenland TPs/colonies will be rebel controlled to reflect the fact that they were NOT in practice part of any European country, but had total control over their own affairs? And what is with knowledge of Newfoundland? Just because some Vikings went there 400 years ago is no reason at all to suppose anyone in Norway or Denmark still knows about it. Vague rumours that there's land out there somewhere, at best.
 

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Originally posted by dunkel
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So...does this mean that if you have a 72 month +3 revolt risk and get hit with a 12 month +1, we won't be getting +4 for 72 months like it is now?

Looks that way. Hope it works.:)
 

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Originally posted by Heyesey
Presumably those Greenland TPs/colonies will be rebel controlled to reflect the fact that they were NOT in practice part of any European country, but had total control over their own affairs? And what is with knowledge of Newfoundland? Just because some Vikings went there 400 years ago is no reason at all to suppose anyone in Norway or Denmark still knows about it. Vague rumours that there's land out there somewhere, at best.

I suggest you pick up some books and read a bit about Norwegian history (and how Greenland and Iceland became official part of Norway during the 1250's for example).

Newfoundland was known, but it was thought of as just another island, not part of the americas.
 

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Originally posted by Onslaught


Also, the province of Prussia changes culture to German with the event, so only Memel should be non-state culture (until the partition of Poland).

Not to sound stupid, but when did this change? I hadn't noticed it.