What increases Intel Advantage combat bonus?

[NeFuRii]

I can't figure it out.
Playing as Germany, the USA AI made a D-Day landing. I noticed their troops have +15% Intel Advantage combat bonus. 15% looks like it's capped limit, and game calculates this dynamically based on some values.
But which values?

I tag switched to USA to check some numbers. Neither me nor them has ciphers broken on each other. They are further advanced in breaking mine, but their progress is at around 60% while mine is about 10%. And I don't think unbroken ciphers do anything anyway.
I checked the other intel values from Intel Ledger, USA has on me: Civ: 62%, Army:59%, Naval: 85%, Air:50%
I have on them: Civ: 100%, Army 58%, Nav: 100%, Air: 41%.
So... overall pretty close.
They have one agent building network in Germany, I have 3 agents building networks in USA.
They have fully upgraded Intel Agency, I don't, but I do have all the bottom cipher related stuff and a couple random ones from other categories.

Which values gives them maximal available Intel Advantage bonus over me?
Is it like.. scout plane or something? But I had interception mission all the time in the affected zone, and no enemy plane activities before. And now after checking, the AI still has no planes in the region. They did have for a very short period but took them away, while I changed my interception to air superiority.
To me, it seems like i should have the intel advantage or at least, it should be close. Yet, USA maxed out their bonus. How?

 

[fighting_falcon93]

When you break someones ciphers, you get access to a passive bonus and an active bonus. When you pick that active bonus, you get "Intel Advantage +15%" for 30 days and then these bonuses disappear. To get the bonuses again, you need to break their ciphers again.

 

[cTrix]

Having a spy build an intel network gives a bonus

 

[Iskulya]

When you break someones ciphers, you get access to a passive bonus and an active bonus. When you pick that active bonus, you get "Intel Advantage +15%" for 30 days and then these bonuses disappear. To get the bonuses again, you need to break their ciphers again.

That's not it.

I've seen the intel advantage combat modifier before I even had a cryptography department formed, let alone the enemy cypher decrypted.

 

[sekelsenmat]

Maybe they have spy in the state where the fight is going on/neighbour state?

 

[marcelo r. r.]

Various things give intel, even combat itself.

 

[NeFuRii]

When you break someones ciphers, you get access to a passive bonus and an active bonus. When you pick that active bonus, you get "Intel Advantage +15%" for 30 days and then these bonuses disappear. To get the bonuses again, you need to break their ciphers again.

USA has no cipher on me, neither passive nor active.

Maybe they have spy in the state where the fight is going on/neighbour state?

They had spy in Berlin building network, while the combat itself was in France, so i think that's not it either. Plus, i think it's impossible to build a spy network on a territory you already own, so it would mean that the defender would have no way to get this bonus, if it was a result of a spy network.

Various things give intel, even combat itself.

Yes, but, where can I find this as a value? In the Intel Ledger my Army Intel and USA's Army Intel is almost exactly the same value, so there must be some other intel than this, but I can't find it. It's worth mentioning that I barely fought the USA in the war on land so far, but they had the intel right off the bat when their invasion landed, so they prepared it somehow before.

I was thinking maybe there is some operation that gives it? Operation's descriptions are a bit lacking in terms of what bonus they actually provide (or at least, I can't find the tooltip for that, again.) But I think the AI doesn't use operation's anyway? Even if it does, i think the USA had no operation with "completed" status on the list.
So while I agree that many things give intel, i would be happy to see the exact value against given country somewhere and understand what are the parts that made this intel become what it has become.

 

[cTrix]

You can also gain intel by capturing enemy spies. The game doesnt tell you about it but the devs confirmed it.

 

[NeFuRii]

You can also gain intel by capturing enemy spies. The game doesnt tell you about it but the devs confirmed it.

Ah true, thanks for reminding that, but that only makes this situation more difficult to understand. I forgot to mention, I have caught USA's spy (well, there is no notification about that, but when tag swittching, they had one caught by germany), while they have never caught mine yet. So i would say, it's still more likely that I should have some advantage, and not them.
My spy was once caught in USSR though, but that was long ago and i think it should have no impact on the current situation.

Now i'm wondering if there is any intel sharing? Like... USA being allied to UK and maybe UK having intel on me and sharing that to USA? Would make sense, but still, I'd like to know how to check that...

 

[sortulv]

scout planes maybe? I'm pretty sure that was one of the reasons I allways had the intel advantage in my last game.

 

[unmerged(180217)]

scout planes maybe? I'm pretty sure that was one of the reasons I allways had the intel advantage in my last game.

Scout planes indeed give intel. A few hundred should let you reach the hard cap of +25% Intel.

 

[NeFuRii]

scout planes maybe? I'm pretty sure that was one of the reasons I allways had the intel advantage in my last game.

I have air superiority there and I had interception mission all the time before the invasion. So unless scout planes are allowed to fly free without being engaged by my fighters, it's impossible. Plus, since i do have air superiority, I would assume that it gives intel as well for me. So USA should have no advantage.

To be honest, I'm starting to lean towards it being a bug or something.
In previous versions there was something about intel not working properly on the occupied territories. Intel (decryption/encryption techs) was taken from the original owner of the territory rather than from the occupant. Since they reworked the intel, maybe it's the same bug but manifesting in a different way, or just a different, but similar bug. The thing is, intel seems to be poorly presented for the player to judge, so it's hard to tell if it's working as intended or not...

 

[NeFuRii]

Scout planes indeed give intel. A few hundred should let you reach the hard cap of +25% Intel.

Just to be clear, I'm talking about "Intel Advantage" combat modifier. The +25% Intel cap you talk about is for Ledger.

 

[unmerged(180217)]

Just to be clear, I'm talking about "Intel Advantage" combat modifier. The +25% Intel cap you talk about is for Ledger.

Ah...

OK, well "in combat" Intel advantage I believe is due to having a recon advantage. It's mentioned in the DDs that recon gives more Intel. However, it might on the otherhand be the delta between your army intel vs. enemy. I'd have to tag between 2 countries to be sure. It might in fact be the latter, as there is now a new naval spotting bonus due to the naval intel delta (although its bugged, has incorrect name of decryption bonus, I have a ticket to get that fixed).

 

[sekelsenmat]

Maybe some focus tree stuff? Like those "War plan Red" focuses. It could be that simply mislabeled in the tooltip.

 

[sortulv]

I've flown my scout planes in enemy airspace, and they seem to suffer more from accedents the guns... And they do give intel advantage.

 

[sekelsenmat]

I've flown my scout planes in enemy airspace, and they seem to suffer more from accedents the guns... And they do give intel advantage.

What I really wonder is if they die quickly to enemy fighters (so can only be used if the enemy is not flying there)?

What guns are you talking about? The enemy had fighters in the same zone?

 

[sekelsenmat]

What I really wonder is if they die quickly to enemy fighters (so can only be used if the enemy is not flying there)?

What guns are you talking about? The enemy had fighters in the same zone?

I've never noticed any damage to recon planes from enemy fighters. They seem to be immune

 

[ladner]

Regarding agents the ability know exactly what your main opponent is producing, in this case AI UK is highly useful. I have almost twice the number of MILs dedicated to air, and maybe 15-20 to 1 in armor. Of course my CIV build up isn't as far ahead, maybe 100 to 81, but have collaboration planned for France to take the big step ahead.