What if Germany had won World War 2?

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Originally posted by Falcão
It's a "bit" easier to fight a war outside our homes isn't it? [/B]

Yes it is, and that is one of the reasons why the previous superpower was Britain. However, being spared the ravages of war on home soil would not appear to be the only inrgedient to achieve greatness.

Would you prefer if the American people had sacked their own cities just to prove a point

 

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um... yes?

 

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Originally posted by sean9898

Would you prefer if the American people had sacked their own cities just to prove a point

Which point, that they can win a war even with their cities sacked?
I guess it wasn't just the large, protective oceans that allowed America to win WWII. Having the strongest economy of the world, vast access to resources, and a solid manpower base surely contributed a bit to it as well.

 

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Still, not being overrun within weeks comes handy if you're only just building up to "super power" status.

 

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Originally posted by DamnYankee


I agree with you that it is easier to fight a war outside your home but why so much hostility?

No hostility here, just showing how a superpower is built, but The US have their own merit.
Maybe i was talking passionatiliy and not that rationally, and i admit it, just because the americans at this forum are above the average or standard american.

 

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Maybe i was talking passionatiliy and not that rationally, and i admit it, just because the americans at this forum are above the average or standard american.

Of course we are!

Back to the point, if Germany won, then they would have a few years of stability, before all of Europe rebelled against them. Anyway, if Germany won the war w/o DoWing the US, then they would after the war, and get their butts kicked by us.

 

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One thing for sure, if Germany had won the war, there wouldn't be any Israel, because ALL of the European Jews in their reach (which would have been most of them) would have been killed. The Nazi were probably only a year or two away from their goal of extermination when the war ended.

 

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I think if Germany had won the war, it would be a question of time before true germans rebelled themselves against a regime they didn't aprove, or the resistence of the occupied countries would increase and Nazis would lost control over the conquered countries, but before that many more would die, like the jews.

 

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Originally posted by Falcão
I think if Germany had won the war, it would be a question of time before true germans rebelled themselves against a regime they didn't aprove, or the resistence of the occupied countries would increase and Nazis would lost control over the conquered countries, but before that many more would die, like the jews.

You seem a little optimistic here. Had the Nazis one, there wasn't a chance in a million of a German revolt-after all, everyone loves a winner, and Hitler would have done exactly what he said he was going to do, a very rare trait for a politician! As for occupied Europe, again I think you're being overly optimistic. Even given an external source of weapons and assistance, the track record of partisan movements from WWII is not particularly good, and the Germans would have no compunction about the ruthlessness of their reprisals.

 

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Originally posted by Falcão

... just because the americans at this forum are above the average or standard american.

Hey, we're NOT gonna start on the average/standard American is dumb again, are we?!

 

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Originally posted by Chimera


Hey, we're NOT gonna start on the average/standard American is dumb again, are we?!

Now that you mentioned it...

The standard american thinks that the Jerry Springer Show is the higher level of education they can get...just kidding.

 

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Originally posted by Falcão
I think if Germany had won the war, it would be a question of time before true germans rebelled themselves against a regime they didn't aprove, or the resistence of the occupied countries would increase and Nazis would lost control over the conquered countries, but before that many more would die, like the jews.

Excuse me, what is a "true German"?

 

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Originally posted by Herr Adlerhof


Excuse me, what is a "true German"?

Someone alone the lines of Stauffenberg or Canaris.

 

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Originally posted by Herr Adlerhof


Excuse me, what is a "true German"?

He probably means a German who isn't a nazi. That would make the nazis false Germans? I don't know, maybe "true German" isn't the best choice of words.

 

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Originally posted by Tokarev


He probably means a German who isn't a nazi. That would make the nazis false Germans? I don't know, maybe "true German" isn't the best choice of words.

Yea i understand, i just reacted because you either are a German, or yer not. Doesnt matter if your a nationalsocialist, communist, *insert political ideology here*, you'r still a German.

 

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Originally posted by Herr Adlerhof


Yea i understand, i just reacted because you either are a German, or yer not. Doesnt matter if your a nationalsocialist, communist, *insert political ideology here*, you'r still a German.

well well, excuse me for being a racist...

So Nazis are germans and germans can be nazis or isn't this true?
Yes all germans including nazis and other political sectors of the society are germans...maybe it was bad chosen, one is never to careful when dealing with the german issue.
i intended to make a point that not all germans were nazis, but then i might be mistaken...

 

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Originally posted by Tokarev


He probably means a German who isn't a nazi. That would make the nazis false Germans? I don't know, maybe "true German" isn't the best choice of words.

Yeah you get it, but then choose your own words.
And by the way , i was trying to smooth things a bit...Not to say what many don't say in public about germans(due to nazism) but think.I can explain it better if you want.Period

 

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Originally posted by Chimera


Someone alone the lines of Stauffenberg or Canaris.

So "true Germans" would then be hideous Traitors passing on Information to the Enemy to enable them to kill more Germans and eventually occupy the country and tearing on third of its territory away and giving it to its neighboughrs?

Gee, then in that sence Im certainly not a "good German" but would then rather be considered a "Nazi".

I wonder if Treason during times of War is considered in any other country as something noble? I think not.

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Originally posted by Wehrmacht
So "true Germans" would then be hideous Traitors passing on Information to the Enemy to enable them to kill more Germans and eventually occupy the country and tearing on third of its territory away and giving it to its neighboughrs?

Yes, had Germans worked against their regieme from 1939 onwards, the country may have suffered less destruction, and who knows, a Hitler-less Germany offering peace might not have endured as harsh a peace as 1945.

I wonder if Treason during times of War is considered in any other country as something noble? I think not.

Would you consider Oleg Penkovsky as being noble? He betrayed his country, not through a hatred of Russia, but a hatred of the cabal running the country.

 

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Originally posted by Wehrmacht

So "true Germans" would then be hideous Traitors passing on Information to the Enemy to enable them to kill more Germans and eventually occupy the country and tearing on third of its territory away and giving it to its neighboughrs?

Gee, then in that sence Im certainly not a "good German" but would then rather be considered a "Nazi".
Cheerio

Well, all German soldiers swore personal oaths to Hitler, but IMO such oaths become irrelevant if I discover that this person is a megalomanic mass murderer. I don't see it as betraying Germany as such, but getting rid of a tyrant and replacing Nazis with moderates and reaching some kind of agreement (hopefully) with the western Allies. BTW, it was Hitler's idiotic and criminal policy-making and strategy that brought suffering to the German people, not the Allies.