What happens with Abbasids nowadays?

[Light CSA]

So I've come back to the game after several years (last played during sword of islam), and I'm wondering what the general trajectory of the Abbasids is at the Old God start date- will they just keep blobbing or will decadence eventually take them down? I've been playing a Karen game, and I'm trying to decide if I can keep nibbling around the edges and waiting them out, or if I need to start finding more direct ways to undermine them.

 

[Chunakun]

With the New DLC and patch they don't blob like they used to and there is a chance that their vassals will force them to go elective and be replaced by another dynastie.

 

[Dakilla TM]

It's still random for me. I play multiple games at once and sometimes they fall after a few years, other times they go all out for India and are super stable. It's all about AI behavior really.

 

[heliostellar]

With the New DLC and patch they don't blob like they used to and there is a chance that their vassals will force them to go elective and be replaced by another dynastie.

Muslims don't have elective succession. The replacement by another dynasty is the renaming magic of decadence.

 

[Conan The Librarian]

Shouldnt Ibadis have elective, as they started electing caliphs after Mohamed, or have I got my wires crossed somewhere?

 

[kmh42]

Muslims don't have elective succession. The replacement by another dynasty is the renaming magic of decadence.

Yes the have with conclave! When the Council is fully empowered the succession law switches to elective, also in Muslim realms

 

[Tapio]

Haven't seen them blob much in TOG starts lately.

 

[Sergeant Flutter]

Pretty random. Some games they get all of De Jure Arabia and then attack the Yellow Blob.

Other times, they sit there and do nothing.

Other times they lose Persia really early, and never fully recover (this happened in my game. They lost Persia before 790. They never recovered, and they lost the empire in the 900s. Now the Empire is mostly Egypt/Nubia. They lost Mesopotamia, Syria, and Jerusalem.)

It all depends.

 

[Fishman786]

Is it acceptable to have an elective caliphate? Surely that would entail massive religious changes. Being able to elect a non-Quraysh caliph would be basically accepting the Kharijite position.

 

[Chunakun]

Is it acceptable to have an elective caliphate? Surely that would entail massive religious changes. Being able to elect a non-Quraysh caliph would be basically accepting the Kharijite position.

In one of my games the Empire went to another dynastie but the Abbasids kept the Caliphate.

 

[MichaelStakely]

The Abbasids seem to always collapse into a bunch of smaller states within the first hundred years or so in my games and often within the first seventy. I even saw a Shia revolt succeed in Syria during my last game. That's the first time I've seen that happen since they changed how event troops are calculated thanks to an assist from two other revolts and the Byzantines declaring a war for Alexandria. Well, first time that it didn't happen because of my actions anyway.

Hispania is always steady as a rock though and just changes dynasties after a successful revolt.

 

[Thrake]

The Abbasids seem to always collapse into a bunch of smaller states within the first hundred years or so in my games and often within the first seventy. I even saw a Shia revolt succeed in Syria during my last game.

He asked for TOG...