What happens to government-based military idea groups (aristocratic, divine, horde, etc.) taken, if you later change your government?

[RichardOlcese]

There are 5 military ideas (aristocratic, divine, horde, indigenous, plutocratic) that, in order to be selected, require the player to have the respective government type. Either a monarchy, a theocracy, a horde, etc. Let's suppose I choose one of them, like divine or horde ideas. And then I get a different government reform. Because, for example, I was a Manchu horde that became the Celestial Empire; or I was a theocracy that became a republic. What happens then? Do I lose the entire idea set, including the ideas I have already invested in? Or it remains as taken, with the ideas active, only that some of them may not work (like the ones providing horde unity or devotion)? Could you guys, fellow EU4 players, enlighten me as to what really happens in this situation because it's driving me crazy! Thank you.

 

[imvdm]

You keep them.

 

[RichardOlcese]

You keep them.

But if some of the bonuses no longer apply to my situation (like yearly horde unity or devotion, when I just became a monarchy that uses legitimacy), I simply lose the bonus and it's basically an empty idea, right?

 

[currylambchop]

But if some of the bonuses no longer apply to my situation (like yearly horde unity or devotion, when I just became a monarchy that uses legitimacy), I simply lose the bonus and it's basically an empty idea, right?

Yea, but divine ideas (the only one that gives devotion) also gives legitimacy too

 

[RichardOlcese]

Yea, but divine ideas (the only one that gives devotion) also gives legitimacy too

True, true, quite true. Thank you. You made my day, Mr Mr.