What happened with rebellions?

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Zagreb 887

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The loyalty of the vassal government to you is irrelevant because the rebels are rebelling against that government. It's an issue of the AI's inability to take measures to prevent internal revolts. You see your vassals collapse a bit more often than other empires because they have lower AI bonus (particularly the stability part is relevant), the circumstances of vassalage cause unhappiness for several factions, and possibly because the AI is in an economic mess due to taxes. Basically, imagine you are the USA, your subject is the Karzai or Ghani government in Afghanistan, and the rebels are the Taliban.

Ideally the AI would be less inept at dealing with revolt situations, but if that can't be done, we could do with some way to track and possibly intervene in such situations in subject empires. While it can sometimes be fun to use claims granted by rebellion, shout "doctrine of lapse" and start assuming direct control in the style of the British East India Company, sometimes you just want your vassals not to be basket cases.

It would be nice if the overlord Garrison building could help to mitigate the rebellions in recently conquered/created vassals. At least, if, as overlord you could be noticed of the ongoing situation on your vassal territory. I would happily throw some army where there are needed to prevent that BS to happen
 
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The loyalty of the vassal govt is NOT irrelevant to you becuase it is YOUR vassal and if it rebels its also YOUR problem.. cmon this isn't a difficult concept.
 

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Wait, people actually have problems with revolts?

With the new situation thingy I find its even easier to stop them. Theres a new portion of the game that actually TELLS you that one is happening if you dont act accordingly...

On the wiki I saw that moving pops from the planet while the situation is going on triggers the revolt. So dont do that. When you get the pop up. Make sure the situation goes away first or move them before you get the situation.
 

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I have seen alot (and I mean ALOT) of robot rebellions though. Like in 1 game every empire had one. Some had several! And they keep happening! D:

What happens most of the times is that rather then reconquor them they vassalize them for some reason. So alot of empires got these very small 1 or 2 system vassals in the middle of them. Its really weird and im not to sure what to make of it.,...
 

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Just had a vassal rebellion happen without even going to war with them, no chance to assert overlordship. Thanks PDX. As much as I love the idea of vassals especially with Overlord DLC, it just does not function. time to quit using em entirely.
 

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nope no war nothing. they declared war on my vassal with no involvement of me as the overlord, and zero notification.
 

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I have seen alot (and I mean ALOT) of robot rebellions though. Like in 1 game every empire had one. Some had several! And they keep happening! D:

What happens most of the times is that rather then reconquor them they vassalize them for some reason. So alot of empires got these very small 1 or 2 system vassals in the middle of them. Its really weird and im not to sure what to make of it.,...

Certain AI personalities always have AI rebellions if they get tech high enough (Spiritualist Seekers are the worst about it. I think Evangelizing Zealots bans robots and AI). Other Personalities will give AI citizen rights if they can afford it, but on lower difficulties the AI economy is frequently too weak to afford it.
 

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It would be nice if the overlord Garrison building could help to mitigate the rebellions in recently conquered/created vassals. At least, if, as overlord you could be noticed of the ongoing situation on your vassal territory. I would happily throw some army where there are needed to prevent that BS to happen

It actually has the opposite effect by reducing happiness.
 
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