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I can't open the page describing Prussia in the aforementioned Wiki. I can open Prussian Missions, but not Prussia itself. Is it my problem, or is it everybody's problem? Who can fix it? I bet Kant could write some meditations about it, and Friedrich der Grosse would have sent an army to deal with the problem, but could someone with actual computer knowledge really do something about it?
 
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I can't open the page describing Prussia in the aforementioned Wiki. I can open Prussian Missions, but not Prussia itself. Is it my problem, or is it everybody's problem? Who can fix it? I bet Kant could write some meditations about it, and Friedrich der Grosse would have sent an army to deal with the problem, but could someone with actual computer knowledge really do something about it?
It works fine for me, is this the address you're trying:
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Prussia
 

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So, what's happening? I can't open it at all. Is it an Austrian conspiracy to recover SIlesia?

People are gaslighting you. There is no Prussia, only Russia.

Just tried the list and it also gave me a 500 error. Probably something wrong on wiki's end.
 
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I think I've found the culprit.
Code:
curl -I https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Prussia
always works fine, returns 200. But
Code:
curl -I  -H 'accept-language: ru-RU,ru;q=0.9,en-US;q=0.8,en;q=0.7' https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Prussia
always returns 500. It must be related to sanctions :)
 
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I think I've found the culprit.
Code:
curl -I https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Prussia
always works fine, returns 200. But
Code:
curl -I  -H 'accept-language: ru-RU,ru;q=0.9,en-US;q=0.8,en;q=0.7' https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Prussia
always returns 500. It must be related to sanctions :)
Perhaps the code is right after all? If it used to return 200, now it's only reasonable that it returns 500 due to the general inflation?
 

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I think I've found the culprit.
Code:
curl -I https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Prussia
always works fine, returns 200. But
Code:
curl -I  -H 'accept-language: ru-RU,ru;q=0.9,en-US;q=0.8,en;q=0.7' https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Prussia
always returns 500. It must be related to sanctions :)
Now it also happens sometimes with Brandenburg. With Prussia it's permanent. Serious question: how could it be related to sanctions?
 

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always returns 500. It must be related to sanctions :)
I'm pretty sure that it has nothing to do with sanctions or a specific language. If you change your code to the following, it works:
Code:
curl -I  -H 'accept-language: ru-RU;q=0.9,en-US;q=0.8,en;q=0.7' https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Prussia
On the other hand, the following code which I took from the mozilla documentation of the header doesn't work:
Code:
curl -I  -H 'accept-language: fr-CH,fr;q=0.9,en;q=0.8,de;q=0.7,*;q=0.5' https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Prussia

AFAIK the problem is that the wiki currently can't generate the page and you can only see it if it can be satisfied by the cache(presumably the caching doesn't know that the generated page will always be in english no matter what language you request). If you are logged in, it can help to log out, because logged in users never get the cached page.

The reason why the wiki can't generate the Prussia page has something to do with the inclusion of the decisions to form Prussia. Including just one of them like on the Brandenburg and Teutonic Order pages allows you to load it sometimes. But the prussia page has all three of them and seems to be broken 100% of the time. But the decisions themselves are shown correctly on the Formation decisions page (the Prussia page includes it from there). But the decisions are not overly complicated, so I don't know why they are causing this trouble.
 
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I'm pretty sure that it has nothing to do with sanctions or a specific language.
Yeah I was just kidding. But headers definitely affect result.

AFAIK the problem is that the wiki currently can't generate the page and you can only see it if it can be satisfied by the cache
Sounds plausible. Cache can be set up to ignore certain headers though.

Other page which is likely broken is https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/The_Papal_State.
 

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I tested it and I can load it about 50% of the time(while being logged in). So it is not just the prussia formation decisions which cause problems. There are probably more country pages which are broken some of the time. This means an administrator has to fix (or at least identify) the underlying issue and it isn't really useful to just use workarounds to fix the affected pages(e.g. the prussia page can be fixed by linking the formation decisions instead of transcluding them).
 
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Now it's fixed! Thank God! Thank you, kind computer person who fixed it! I feel I am reborn. I will be able to sleep today. Again: THANK YOU!
The "fix" removed the prussia formation decisions from the prussia page. But this is arguably one of the main reasons that people look at this page, so the fix is not really helpful. And other pages still have the problem(at least sometimes).
 
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