What happened to my crown laws?

[CelticMutt]

Sorry, I didn't know if this should go in bug reports or tech problems or not.

I started off a game as Holland, married into Flanders (and later Lower Lorraine) so that heirs would eventually inherit all the De Jure territory for Frisia. With a whooooooole lot of assassination ... Anyways, so my current ruler inherits Flanders and shortly after forms Frisia. I go to the law page and ... nothing. I mean all the regular stuff is there, but there's no options for Crown Authority or Papal Investiture. So what now?

I can think of two possible reasons for this, but not how to fix it.

1) The least likely - it still hasn't been 10 years. I don't think that would effect whether or not the crown laws would show up though, plus I don't recall if a 10 year rule is required for crown laws or not.

2) My checksum for a while not was definitely not XCSD. I uninstalled everything, copied the saves out, then deleted everything and reinstalled. Checksum's back to XCSD but still no crown laws. I'd say this is the culprit, but I loaded up a different dynasty from a few days ago while still having the bad checksum and they still had crown laws. But if it was this, and since i saved with the bad check sum - and since I don't know how far back it went I doubt I have saves from before - I'm guessing that means this particular game is ruined then.


edit: I loaded up another kingdom in the same save file and they had no crown laws either. So I'm guessing this is definitely a bad save now.

 

[unmerged(533203)]

Are you still part of the HRE? I *Believe* that as you're a King under its rightful De jure liege. You are stuck with the HRE crown laws.

 

[Sarog]

I *think* that it is because Frisia is de jure HRE and therefore stuck with HRE crown laws so long as you are an HRE vassal. Are you still vassalized to the Kaiser or are you independent? If you're independent and still without crown laws then I have no idea.

Edit: ninja'd

 

[CelticMutt]

I'm vassalized still. But, I know I saw Bohemia enact crown laws up to High in the pop-ups. However, you guys could be right - I just loaded up the save as France and their crown laws are there. I could swear I had the option when I formed Burgundy before breaking free, but maybe I didn't. Still, thanks for the help!

 

[perpetualmuse]

I'm vassalized still. But, I know I saw Bohemia enact crown laws up to High in the pop-ups. However, you guys could be right - I just loaded up the save as France and their crown laws are there. I could swear I had the option when I formed Burgundy before breaking free, but maybe I didn't. Still, thanks for the help!

If you start in the 1066 start, Burgundy isn't de jure part of the HRE, but is still under de facto HRE control. This is why when you became King of Burgundy you could have your own crown laws. Frisia is however de jure HRE from the start, so will come under the HRE's crown laws no matter what. It's also possible that the Emperor held the King of Bohemia title and changed the crown laws himself.

 

[CelticMutt]

If you start in the 1066 start, Burgundy isn't de jure part of the HRE, but is still under de facto HRE control. This is why when you became King of Burgundy you could have your own crown laws. Frisia is however de jure HRE from the start, so will come under the HRE's crown laws no matter what. It's also possible that the Emperor held the King of Bohemia title and changed the crown laws himself.

Yeah, that makes sense about Burgundy. Should have thought of that myself. :/ But I have no idea what's going on with Bohemia - I just saw the pop-up that said they'd gotten to Absolute authority already. I don't think they've had that many kings, but I haven't paid attention. I do know the Emperor isn't the king of Bohemia though.