Also, if your army shows up in a battle that's being led by another ruler, do you get the same amount of points for winning as they do, or less because you're not the leader?
What gives you more points towards winning a crusade, winning battles or sieging counties?
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A battle gives points just once, while keeping a holding sieged down continues to give points, so in the long term, sieging is the better way to win a crusade/jihad/great holy war.
Personally, I've found battles to have a far greater effect, especially if they are constant. While sieging counts for warscore it doesn't really put a lot into percent contributed. If you can win a couple major battles you are absolutely set.
It's still worth joining battles. Especially close ones that you can turn into a decisive victory. It thins the enemy armies and then allows you to siege more safely
I won a crusade once just by waiting for the Arabs to siege Rome then waiting for them to move off and freeing the county. Of course the Arab doomstack goes back after Rome again, so I get on my boats and let them, once they move off I retake Rome. Rinse repeat. I only had a tiny contingent in the war goal for crusader traits, parked on some county waiting for catholic doomstack to come help me siege it so they did all the work and I got all the credit.
Battles add much mire to your contribution than sieges.
Also it’s better for you if your army starts the battle.
Also it’s better for you if your army starts the battle.
What really brings points is losing men. Engaging a big battle and losing is granted to boost your contribution. Don't fuck up the crusade, though, it better be worth it.
Played as Bouillon, had my 6k stack with mercs already in the adria when the crusade triggered. Started with comfortable 70% contribution when others had came in. England engaged the Fatimid stack and lost the battle, overtook me in contribution, so I took my attached counts, engaged too, lost also, but managed to push my contribution back up. Then right away re-engaged with the english together and defeated them.
On a sidenote, as it wasn't mentioned, it is not the sieges themselves giving contribution points to the crusade (they give warscore).
What "contributes" is your armies presence in the destinated crusade target- something which lasting sieges typically provide. If you observe the ticket on the contribution score on the crusade flag, you'll notice that the contribution level of all leaders who have soldiers in the crusade target area raises daily- so yes, having your army in spot to land when the crusade triggers is a valid tactic to be biggest contributer as small fish.
Large battles bring more, however- if an enemy stack you can engage passes by closely, don't hesitate, as long as you are fighting crusade target or defenders in battle, you also get contribution daily, regardless of the location. And if you contribute a serious army, you get much more contribution than sieging can give this way.
Played as Bouillon, had my 6k stack with mercs already in the adria when the crusade triggered. Started with comfortable 70% contribution when others had came in. England engaged the Fatimid stack and lost the battle, overtook me in contribution, so I took my attached counts, engaged too, lost also, but managed to push my contribution back up. Then right away re-engaged with the english together and defeated them.
On a sidenote, as it wasn't mentioned, it is not the sieges themselves giving contribution points to the crusade (they give warscore).
What "contributes" is your armies presence in the destinated crusade target- something which lasting sieges typically provide. If you observe the ticket on the contribution score on the crusade flag, you'll notice that the contribution level of all leaders who have soldiers in the crusade target area raises daily- so yes, having your army in spot to land when the crusade triggers is a valid tactic to be biggest contributer as small fish.
Large battles bring more, however- if an enemy stack you can engage passes by closely, don't hesitate, as long as you are fighting crusade target or defenders in battle, you also get contribution daily, regardless of the location. And if you contribute a serious army, you get much more contribution than sieging can give this way.