What ever happened to siege events?

[marceror]

I've gotten back into CK2 again over the last couple of months, after not playing for at least a year or so.

It has occurred to me that siege events don't trigger anymore. It used to be that defenders would occasionally "sally out" for a raid against a besieging army. If the sally was successful, the sieging army would take losses. If it wasn't, the besieged force would take losses and receive a morale hit.

Or there was the "supplies smuggled into city" message, which would give the defenders a morale bonus.

I've played a good amount over the last several weeks. There hasn't been a single siege event that I've seen. What happened to these, and why?

 

[Ballisticwaffle]

Thats strange. I get them non stop like a plague of army murdering bandits. One time i popped my first raiding siege of a decade and within two weeks three of those events popped and lowered me to about 100 shy of what the sieged required.

Check your message settings though, it could be a case of hidden events.

 

[Korashy]

Honestly, I've noticed the lack of them as well, and I have default message settings. I don't seem to lose troops either. It's a bit weird. Also haven't seen Viking or anything else trigger on siege completion.

 

[Xia]

They still happen, they just don't pop up by default any more.

EDIT: The change was around ROI I -think-, but yeah, the default is that they no longer pop up.

 

[Malagrae]

They still happen, they just don't pop up by default any more.

EDIT: The change was around ROI I -think-, but yeah, the default is that they no longer pop up.

Yes, at or near RoI release Siege events were moved from default pop up to default low priority messages. Some days i miss them. Then I turn them on again and remember how tedious they get during major wars.

 

[marceror]

Thanks for the info. I'll check that out. I find that I'm sort of missing them at this point.

 

[Rascar Capac]

If anyone knows how to get them visible again (and cares to mention how), that'd be nice. I can't find them.

 

[aitaituo]

If anyone knows how to get them visible again (and cares to mention how), that'd be nice. I can't find them.

They're in message settings as "Notification events". By default I think they're a low priority message, so if you don't regularly check those you'll miss them entirely.

 

[marceror]

Hmm, the only thing I see related to sieges in message settings is:

• You won a siege
• You lost a siege
• A siege has been won
• A siege has been abandoned

Nothing else related to siege events, or sieges period.

Oh well.

 

[aitaituo]

Nothing else related to siege events, or sieges period.

Yeah, they were moved to "Notification Events" which includes some non-siege related events.

 

[Rascar Capac]

Yeah, they were moved to "Notification Events" which includes some non-siege related events.

No wonder I couldn't find them in military section then...

 

[marceror]

Where is that? Where I go to menu, Message Settings, I see the following categories:

• All
• Diplomacy
• Dynasty
• Intrigue
• Military
• Government
• Religion
• Other

There isn't a "notification events" category. And at any rate, I checked through the "all" category and still didn't find it.

 

[Rybeck]

"Notification events" is second last on the "All" category

 

[marceror]

Thanks. I located it.

What a highly unintuitive place to locate this. I never would have figured that out without community assistance.

 

[Mudcrab]

The message system is unintuitive, yes. Some sounds (victory cheers etc) aren't even triggered if the messages, apropos, aren't ticked in the right 'column'. For the longest time my battles were relatively muted.

Needs de-cluttering.

 

[Tryvenyal]

The raid events were never triggered after HL went live. With the last big fix, I saw them again and it´s also mentioned in the patch- notes.

I kinda missed "Viking" with my Fylkir for a decade or 2

The ongoing siege events are rarely happening to me and if so, it´s only a messege, never a popup. Also commander events are quite rare now days.
Last 500 battles have resulted in 2-3 prisoners, maybe 2 "Wroth", 1 lose "Patience"

No martial educational trait upgrade(Not sure I´ve been eligible)
No 100 prestige

 

[Rybeck]

Yeah, I used to get lots of prisoners in battles and sieges, but not anymore. Also characters killed in battle are almost non-existent

 

[marceror]

Yeah, I used to get lots of prisoners in battles and sieges, but not anymore. Also characters killed in battle are almost non-existent

I am still getting prisoners pretty regularly. I get the you "you dig so and so out of their hiding hole", and often those come with 3 - 6 prisoners a pop. Or sometimes I get a prisoner during a battle. My first battle as Byzantium against Rum in my current campaign resulted in a high level family member from Rum being captured, which gave me a huge boost to war score and consequently, a very short war.

I don't get a lot of characters killed in battle, but they happen. I lost my most recent heir that way. Periodically I kill enemy military leaders too.

 

[Riekopo]

I really miss the siege events too. It made it feel like an actual siege was happening.

 

[aldebaran.man]

I really miss the siege events too. It made it feel like an actual siege was happening.

I completely agree. Should be pop up events.