What do you think the big expansions will be?

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The forgotten fronts

Heavy focus on quality of life updates/changes for the east-asian nations. Japan probably get lots of love in the base game, but french indo-china, British Raj, China/Chinese minor nations, Siam, Philippines, Australia and maybe even the Netherlands due to their colonies get some love, overhaul and major updates, possibly combined with more sea-battle updates. At the other end of the very large sea, South american nations receive the same treatment.

Espionage

A major update/overhaul of diplomacy and espionage with all that it entails.
 

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It depends on the quality of the base product really. In HoI3 they published 3 expansions all trying to fix that mess without ever really succeeding. Vicky 2 was a good base product and the expansions combined gameplay fixes (like fixing the micro hell that was influence) and content additions. I believe that HoI4 will offer a great base product that doesn't need expansions to fix it. After all, that's what PDS did for the better part of the last year. Instead I expect quality expansions. What they actually add won't be set in stone yet, as it always depends on user feedback. Just don't expect crazy stuff like WW1 or Cold War expansions, that's least likely.
 
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I am personally hoping for a timeline extension, instead of 1936-1950s, something more like 1918-1960...
 
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DLC 1: Espionage/replacing their officers with yours
 

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I can imagine either a WW1 dlc, an espionage dlc, or a diplomatic dlc

Diplomacy is already in the game though, Espionage would be all new. I think the expansions will focus on parts of WW2 before ever going beyond '36-'48.


I'm hoping one of them is a WW1 DLC, but I'm guessing it's a bit early for that and they'll probably both be focused on expanding game-play features (e.g., espionage, diplomacy)

Good point, I doubt they're going to put so much time and energy into a WW2 focused game just to double down right away on tons of more content. They'll probably go steady with smaller scale expansions, country specific content like NF trees, and graphic/music DLCs.


I would love to see Paradox attempt a WW1 DLC. The interest is obviously there, and it really doesn't look like they're going to make a WW1 game.

Yes but who knows, with information spreading via internet and the centennial anniversary it's getting more attention lately. Plus...Battlefield 1...perhaps a sign of things to come.


I think that WW1 needs a whole new game. It was a very static war though,so I don't know that can be succefully modelled in a game.

I believe Paradox would rightly give it its own game, but I also believe 'static warfare' can be modeled well enough in a HOI4 mod. Tweaking unit stats, techs/doctrines, combat modifiers, entrenchment, attrition etc together should offer a synergistic way to achieve this goal.


WW1 or espionage imo

Or WW1 Espionage! ;)

WW1 and Diplomatic , I think .

How about WW1 Diplomacy? :eek:o_O

A World War One scenario would be pretty awesome.

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World War I would be more fitting for Victoria 3 (please, Paradox, announce it already).
Cold War could be very interesting. They probably did lot's of research for East vs West (which then sadly got cancelled), so if it that doesn't make it to a separate game, it might be put to use in a DLC.

I'd also love a Sabaton Music DLC, but that probably doesn't count as a major DLC.

Of course, though Victoria covers a fairly large span of time compared to HOI and warfaring in Vicky isn't nearly as detailed as in HOI. Plus Victoria combat is designed for Napoleonic tactics. Practically as soon as WW1 began warfare as it had been known was suddenly and radically changed.


More National Focus Trees.

possibly grouped ones like minor axis powers
Commonwealth country
Latin American
Scandinavian (possibly Finland having its own because it did alot during the war in terms of options)
Chinese or at least nationalist Chinese

Its what a lot of peoples biggest criticism has been and if you remember when EU IV cam out there was not that many national ideas but over time most country's have unique ideas now.

I personally want to see a earlier start date like 1933 or something like DH. or WW1 I doubt it will ever been anywhere past Korea for a cold war DLC the mechanics just don't suit it.

I agree and wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the DLCs turn out to be music and country specific content like the sprites and Poland DLC.


It depends on the quality of the base product really. In HoI3 they published 3 expansions all trying to fix that mess without ever really succeeding. Vicky 2 was a good base product and the expansions combined gameplay fixes (like fixing the micro hell that was influence) and content additions. I believe that HoI4 will offer a great base product that doesn't need expansions to fix it. After all, that's what PDS did for the better part of the last year. Instead I expect quality expansions. What they actually add won't be set in stone yet, as it always depends on user feedback. Just don't expect crazy stuff like WW1 or Cold War expansions, that's least likely.

Agreed. Although games like CK and EU see their timelines expanded, that hasn't been the norm with HOI.
 
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Is Espionage missing entirely from the base game or is it just really weak?
Neither. I suppose people just think that it is a likely candidate and something that is the most likely to be improved and expanded upon after release.
 

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It depends on the quality of the base product really. In HoI3 they published 3 expansions all trying to fix that mess without ever really succeeding. Vicky 2 was a good base product and the expansions combined gameplay fixes (like fixing the micro hell that was influence) and content additions. I believe that HoI4 will offer a great base product that doesn't need expansions to fix it. After all, that's what PDS did for the better part of the last year. Instead I expect quality expansions. What they actually add won't be set in stone yet, as it always depends on user feedback. Just don't expect crazy stuff like WW1 or Cold War expansions, that's least likely.
My thoughts exactly. Especially the part about WWI and the Cold War. That's why I thought of a WWI scenario similar to operation unthinkable in HoI3.
 

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This may of been said before but they have Victoria 3 comeing soon
Yes but World War One wasn't represented in Victoria 2 in any way. (besides the great wars concept/mechanic)
 
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I think it would be interesting to go for a ahistorical dlc which play alongside all those rumors of occultism in the Reich and elsewhere. There is so many movies about this from the Indiana Jones to the old FMA movie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_occultism

Unlike CKII, i have trouble finding ideas for EUIV as everything is there already, nothing is locked out or unmapped.
 

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I would like to buy the big expansion pack but since I don't know what kind of dlc they will sell, I don't think I'm going to buy the pre-release. It's strange to buy something you don't even know...
 

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Like what? Every country in the game is playable.
Add more countries! Byzantium! Atlantis! A Jan Mayen polar bear nation! Westeros!
 

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Agreed. Although games like CK and EU see their timelines expanded, that hasn't been the norm with HOI.

Given how popular the cancelled game of the Cold War-era was, PDS knows very well how big of a customer base such timeline extension would have. Plus the Cold War era is fresh terrain that hasn't been touched by strategy games since said "war" has ended. The 80s were flooded with NATO vs. Warsaw Pact games, today it's a barren wasteland.
If the base game turns out as great as can be expected (after the year long delay), then we may raise our hope.
I just hope that they will communicate such plans early lest the modding community wastes countless hours on a Cold War mod.
 
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