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grommile

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Sorry, there's no Romania TAG to form. It only formed in 1853, in the Vicky timeframe, not EU.
Got a reference for Romania being removed in EU4? Because a decision to form Romania exists in EU3.
 
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Got a reference for Romania being removed in EU4? Because a decision to form Romania exists in EU3.
I didn't know there was one - probably because it never did form, and I never played enough in that region.
And it makes really little sense to have it - considering that at first a much more powerful Hungary bordered them, sometimes vassalizing would-be constituents, later OE taking the entire region (vassals and integrated provinces). Neither would have allowed the formation of a potential regional power, it would have been trampled before it could catch up.
 

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I think it comes from the fact that Portugal is seen as a great country to learn the game on. It's fairly safe, has to keep just 1 nation (Castille) happy and then the player can do whatever he wants - colonize, trade, discover, conquer etc. I think the same can be said about England, and why it's the most popular choice - it's safe. You can do whatever you want on your island and participate in all the aspects of the game, without risking some nasty blob or AI coalition taking you out easily if you make some mistake. And keep in mind it's a topic about the 1st game. Many people will obviously use it to learn, rather than go WC with Kongo.

That makes sense. Castile is even more than portugal in terms of safety, etc, but is more powerful and richer.
 

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Wallachia or Transylvania

I didn't know there was one - probably because it never did form, and I never played enough in that region.
And it makes really little sense to have it - considering that at first a much more powerful Hungary bordered them, sometimes vassalizing would-be constituents, later OE taking the entire region (vassals and integrated provinces). Neither would have allowed the formation of a potential regional power, it would have been trampled before it could catch up.

and yet romania was this close to being formed in 1600, when the voievode of wallachia, michael the brave, conquered both transylvania and moldavia. had he not been assassinated by general Basta he could have easily created a permanent union, with blessing of emperor rudolf II of austria.
most of the great powers with interests in the area (especially austria) toyed with the idea of a unified romanian state acting as a buffer against the other empires. the only problem was the everyone wanted the new state to be completely under their control.

besides you forget the other ahistorical unions in the game like: germany, italy, scadinavia who formed either outside the actual time-frame or never existed at all.
 
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besides you forget the other ahistorical unions in the game like: germany, italy, scadinavia who formed either outside the actual time-frame or never existed at all.

I was gonna say that, but you beat me to it.
 

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Novgorod is also one of my choices. I will establish a prosperous republic in north-eastern Europe, crush the russian neighbours, take over Finland and expand eastwards into Siberia while focusing on trade and exploration. :)
 

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Good question... For start.... I will play Naples and after Byzantium or Novgorod.

in reality, i would like playing Ethiopia but the map, events and country in general, are very bad in Vanilla. So i will wait for a mod like MEIOU who makes an ethiopian game very interesting.