What causes an AI leader to commit suicide?

[EphemeralToast]

My character's best friend & liege just killed himself at age 36. It was properly shocking because he seemed "happy" insofar as the AI can be—he didn't have any stress traits and he seemed to like his family, had no rivals, wasn't Melancholic, etc. I assume the reason the decision was available to him was because his young daughter drowned. I've never seen the AI do this before and it made me wonder what will prompt the AI to use such a nuclear option, like how stressed do they have to be, does it depend on traits, etc. Does anyone know?

 

[Tiax]

    ai_will_do = {
        base = 0
        modifier = {
            add = 30
            has_trait = depressed
        }
        modifier = {
            add = 25
            has_trait = incapable
        }
        modifier = {
            add = 10
            has_trait = cancer
        }
        modifier = {
            add = 10
            has_trait = leper
        }
        modifier = {
            add = 10
            has_trait = great_pox
        }
        modifier = {
            add = 10
            has_trait = lunatic
        }
        modifier = {
            add = 20
            has_character_flag = make_suicide_available
        }
    }

I think that last block says that even if the AI character has no other traits or conditions that would make them want to commit suicide, the mere presence of the option (as given by events following the death of a loved one, for example) is enough to give them a chance of doing it.

 

[Emperor 1997]

    ai_will_do = {
        base = 0
        modifier = {
            add = 30
            has_trait = depressed
        }
        modifier = {
            add = 25
            has_trait = incapable
        }
        modifier = {
            add = 10
            has_trait = cancer
        }
        modifier = {
            add = 10
            has_trait = leper
        }
        modifier = {
            add = 10
            has_trait = great_pox
        }
        modifier = {
            add = 10
            has_trait = lunatic
        }
        modifier = {
            add = 20
            has_character_flag = make_suicide_available
        }
    }

I think that last block says that even if the AI character has no other traits or conditions that would make them want to commit suicide, the mere presence of the option (as given by events following the death of a loved one, for example) is enough to give them a chance of doing it.

They get the flag, even when you revoke their title, they don't like it to be demoted from their rank.

Everytime, when I revoke the title of a self-appointed mayor, they get this flag and no I don't like characters who gives themself, my cities, they are stealing my titles and should counted as traitors.

 

[Fac0810]

My character's best friend & liege just killed himself at age 36. It was properly shocking because he seemed "happy" insofar as the AI can be—he didn't have any stress traits and he seemed to like his family, had no rivals, wasn't Melancholic, etc. I assume the reason the decision was available to him was because his young daughter drowned. I've never seen the AI do this before and it made me wonder what will prompt the AI to use such a nuclear option, like how stressed do they have to be, does it depend on traits, etc. Does anyone know?

eeriely enough, it sounds like a post about a true friend of yours until the "He was happy but maybe his daughter dying did the trick"

 

[kawamuratc]

eeriely enough, it sounds like a post about a true friend of yours until the "He was happy but maybe his daughter dying did the trick"

Was thinking the same thing.

It’s good to see that there’s some looseness in when the game allows NPCs to die by suicide. It’s a hauntingly more accurate representation to be unsure of exactly what caused it.

 

[EphemeralToast]

It is interesting that merely having great pox can cause it, since literally everyone I've ever seen get it in game has recovered after not too long.

"Leper" trait makes more sense, I suppose, although the happiest guy I ever knew in CK3 was a leper. He was my vassal and the guy just loved to party. He threw feasts so often that he got the highest Reveler trait before he died in his 40s, ostensibly from being a leper but I think it was all the rich food and booze that actually did him in. RIP, Party Leper.

 

[kawamuratc]

It is interesting that merely having great pox can cause it, since literally everyone I've ever seen get it in game has recovered after not too long.

"Leper" trait makes more sense, I suppose, although the happiest guy I ever knew in CK3 was a leper. He was my vassal and the guy just loved to party. He threw feasts so often that he got the highest Reveler trait before he died in his 40s, ostensibly from being a leper but I think it was all the rich food and booze that actually did him in. RIP, Party Leper.

You’ve seen people recover from Great Pox on the regular? Huh. I think I’ve seen that too often but it technically is curable (though with low chance and high risk) by physicians.

RIP my man party leper though, may he party hard in his respective afterlife

 

[EphemeralToast]

You’ve seen people recover from Great Pox on the regular? Huh. I think I’ve seen that too often but it technically is curable (though with low chance and high risk) by physicians.

A married couple in my court got it one after the other and both recovered in ~5 years with no permanent effects, I figured that was normal but maybe my court physician was just doing an amazing job with the pot of bees that day