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Enclaves in places like Scandinavia, Italy, North Africa and the Balkans by countries such as GB, Spain and France, they're just annoying to see most of France being occupied because 3 quarters of their army is defending Anatolia
 

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another one :

why even have diplomacy if you cant bribe people (like paying for an alliance with someone bigger than you for protection), cant get people to cancel alliances with others (via bribes, threats or simply being more of an attractive alliance partner), or cant buy land, get them to give up cores etc etc
 

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The AI being absolutely ridiculous in peace negotiations. They never decide to just quit before it's too late, cutting their losses, instead deciding to just wait until they are pummeled into oblivion. For instance, if I take Sardinia that's owned by England, and keep destroying every navy they send my way, they demand all my money.
 

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just tried playing as a European minor for the first time.

Cascading alliances and mega-ego peace offers. Yes this is broken, no I m not happy at all. I feel cheated. I thought this was well made game. Yet again, it feels like the community of strat gamers is so damn desperate to find something that is well made, that they really just cling to anything that offers even remote hope (pc gaming in general i guess).

how something like this could get past quality assurance is astounding.

I have +5% warscore, I offer 80% value in tribute. "they would not accept this offer". Why even have the damn system if it only works for 100% warscore*, and the rest is just meaningless. Its an illusion of game quality that simply isnt there. Sure, they still hace capacity for war, but that never stops them from giving other AIs good peace deals. Its just bad. Bias agaisnt the player is a big no-no in sandboxy strat games.

*thats being generous as while you can annex a whole country with 100%, you cant vasal them always.. what?!

edit : the actual situation :

playing venice. Notice my neighbor to the right, with the 2 gold provinces has ally with denmark ( waaaay away ), and some one-city nobody somewhere who isnt allied to others. I have twice his army size and he just left my trade league. Gold oppertunity right? Ok so hes in the HRE, but I m allied with austria, so they should have my back (also allied with savoy).

I attack on the CB of trade wars, with intention to nab his gold for 8 infamy. Denmark joins in against me, and brings in 1 vassal, and 3 allies. Bohemia joins in against me and brings in burgundy and a few others too. Savoy does nothing, and I if I try to Call to Arms, it says"impossible" for whatever reason. Austria joins in and takes a beating while I eat up my goldrich neighbor. I help a bit too vs austrias agressors so i rack up a bit of warscore. Austria gets a peace after getting clobbered and has to release Tirol as an independant nation. Tirol promptly attacks me as part of an alliance with bohemia. I get my gold provinces and peace out vs me neighbor and try to negotiate out of the war with the rest.

Nope.

I have a positive warscore, but cant get out of a single war even if I literally offer everything I can click on, which equals 80% peacevalue.

Well, some times the warscore is frustrating, but it wouldn't really be realistic if the AI would accept anny deal just because you happen to occupy a few provinces?
The frustrating part is how the AI acts very different towards you, and have a completely unrealistic view as to what is acceptible, although most of the time its just a waiting game untill the AI accepts what is reasonable.
You can not anex regardless just because you have 100% warscore, but you can "swallow bigger" if you have a mission alowing for less warscore to be spent, but again, you also have those for vassalising.
 

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Well, some times the warscore is frustrating, but it wouldn't really be realistic if the AI would accept anny deal just because you happen to occupy a few provinces?
The frustrating part is how the AI acts very different towards you, and have a completely unrealistic view as to what is acceptible, although most of the time its just a waiting game untill the AI accepts what is reasonable.
You can not anex regardless just because you have 100% warscore, but you can "swallow bigger" if you have a mission alowing for less warscore to be spent, but again, you also have those for vassalising.

I hadnt occupied anything from the dozen or so nations who dogpiled me when I attacked a neighbour via a legitimate (nonfaked) CB. I had nibbled a bit at their armies, Austria, my bro* had taken the brunt of it, and they had already gotten a lot out of austria., my warscore vs them was positive. Why would it be unreasonable to expect I could get a peace from them by offering a load of gold, let alone all my gold, all my provinces, all my treaties cancelled and so on....its not like they were heavilly invested in that piddling little country next to me seeing as most of them were 2nd or even 3rd link in a chain of alliances, not to mention not 1 of them was a neighbor to the target, in fact some were from the other end of Europe...

*they even gave me war subsidies out of the blue. 5 gold a month half a year into the game.

the fact that I had a legitimate CB makes it all the more retarded. Since when does an alliance mean you can go around being a jerk, breaking treaties, then hide behind an alliance? I think its silly. Perhaps being attacked with a CB shouldnt forfeit all alliances, but some for sure (like if you get dogpiled for being muslim it isnt ok that your alliance partners refuse to defend you, but if you do it to yourself then they should mostly ignore the alliance).
 
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Okay, I have a new one- the new mobile format of the forums. I can't switch pages without typing the page into Google.
 

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*Serbia is garanteed by Russia. Russia is allied with France.*

*Belgium is guaranteed by Great Britain and France. Great Britain is allied with Japan, Canada, New Zeland, Australia, South Africa and India.*

So, Russia joined because Serbia was attacked, France because it was allied with Russia, Great Britain and its colonies because Germany invaded neutral Belgium and Japan was allied with Great Britain. America later joined the fight because Germany attacked their shippings, Romania to try to get transylvania(which they did), The Ottomans to recover Greece and Albania, Bulgaria to recover what lost land in the second balkanic war. As for the italians...well the backstabbing bastard wanted to steal lands from von Hasburg and only got about half what they wanted, good for them :rofl:

So, WW1 is actually 3 differents wars : German war of Agression, Autrian War of Honor and Ottomans reconquest of Greece using eu3 casus belli system :rofl:

EDIT : It would actually be German reconquest of Luxemburg, my bad :rofl:
It would also be the Italian reconquest of some region that I don't know off the top of my head (or the Italian-Austrian Nationalist War.) It'd also be British Intervention.
EDIT: The American DOW would've been a seperate war also, but I don't know what CB it falls into (because the Mexicans refused the Germans' request to invade.)
 

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Okay, I have a new one- the new mobile format of the forums. I can't switch pages without typing the page into Google.

This is not the fault of the game. Try the normal forum skin, I use it on my smartphone as well.
 

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Speaking of Italy-Austria. That very specific mission you get as Austria every time you complete a mission, which forces you to waste a cancel mission click.

I just played the first 50 years as Austria and yes that mission is getting really old, really fast.
 

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another one :

why even have diplomacy if you cant bribe people (like paying for an alliance with someone bigger than you for protection), cant get people to cancel alliances with others (via bribes, threats or simply being more of an attractive alliance partner), or cant buy land, get them to give up cores etc etc

...I think paying for protection is Being a Vassal...
 

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The AI not upgrading their units all the time a new one becomes available. Austria still using latin knights in the 1600s just makes things too easy.

Some later units (mainly cannons) being inferior to earlier designs.

But must of all, OPMs spamming me with insane peace offers from the other side of the map. "NO, HAMBURG*, I AM NOT GIVING YOU MY TREASURE AND RELEASE MY VASSALS WHILE I AM BEATING YOUR BIG ALLY!"

* replace name with a random OPM
 

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For me, the recently discovered "Auto-CoT creation". It's a good idea, but annoying at the minute - I'm playing as GB and just left the Hanseatic trade league to stick a CoT in London, London decides to trade with Antwerpen which isn't big enough to expand upon and near enough every other province still using Lubeck. However, this annoying CoT creator is creating them in Greenland, Iceland and the Canaries rather than my American colonies or the British Mainland (which I actually have the "create a CoT" mission for). Having them on islands that are either well out the way or right next to some powerful rivals is just a pain in the arse, and ruining any chance of expanding upon Antwerpen so I can ditch it.

(also, the fact that I spent nearly 4 hours checking my system and writing up a bug report because I thought it was the AI going mad... :laugh: )
 

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How the AIs allies/guarantees *always* joins against me, regardless of any treaties we'd had and any other wars they happened to be in, drop everything they're doing, and siege all my stuff before I try to take the OPM that I originally attacked over. But yet my allies often don't join and almost never actually send any troops to help.
 

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Play Muscovy or Russia = crushed by Ottomans
Play Ottomans = crushed by Austria
Play France in early 1400s = crushed by England or Burgandy
Play Timurids = cannot stop the wars of aggression
Austrian HRE is way too powerful
 

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The game won't tell me when my provinces are being besieged, only when I've lost the seige. I've checked the appropriate message options and it still won't. Consequently, I wind up with a token force of 3 or 4 enemy regiments laying seige to mainland Britain while all my armies are busy on the continent, so I have to raise another army to deal with the interlopers.
 
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Play Muscovy or Russia = crushed by Ottomans
Play Ottomans = crushed by Austria
Play France in early 1400s = crushed by England or Burgandy
Play Timurids = cannot stop the wars of aggression
Austrian HRE is way too powerful

Russia crushed by ottomans? That something new. And you'd thought it'll be otherwise, like in history. I blame timurids. They should fall with timur, and whole hordes should be erased in eu4. Also GH should start at war with white horde, along with nogai on their side. This would do two things :
1. Make them weaker and made their fall more of a possibility
2. Allow muscowy to gain time to form russia.
And if timurids would be normal country like in HTTT, just with TSC, it would just make persia appear, so no more turkey in india(or just dead turkey).
 

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Play Muscovy or Russia = crushed by Ottomans
Play Ottomans = crushed by Austria
Play France in early 1400s = crushed by England or Burgandy
Play Timurids = cannot stop the wars of aggression
Austrian HRE is way too powerful

...hmmm... You MIGHT just try to change your playstyle...There must be SOMETHING you are doing wrong, if you can loose as France AND Russia