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Waiting to see what the reaction is. I'll probably wait at least a week or so after release before making a decision as often initial impressions are higher then what the longer term perspective is, especially with a complicated game like this.
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong
To be quite frank it was nothing to do with people buying HoI3 at $7.99, in fact those people in no way influnced our decisions regarding Victoria 2. It was the people who bought HoI3 at full price, our most important and valuable customers, the ones we actually care about that mattered.
That's right!
Uh-huh!
I'm the winner!
I believe I'm owned a bit of "neener neener" right now.
I rule! That's right! I'm awesome!
That's right!
Uh-huh!
I'm the winner!
I believe I'm owned a bit of "neener neener" right now.
I rule! That's right! I'm awesome!
Still as mature as ever.....
I would be buying it now if i had money and not exams, but such is life...
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
To be quite frank, it has everything to do with Hoi3, which was released in a ... Well, you know how it was released. It has everything to do with the 8 months that had to pass until 1.3 came around and made the game playable (and I say playable, but way far from being good. 1.4 was probably one step forward, two backwards).
If people that bought HoI3 at full price, or any other game for that matter, were your most important and valued customers, PI should never ever ever ever ever ever release a game in a condition HoI3 was.
My apologies, I know arguing with PI's devs is not allowed in this forum, but I felt compelled to refute such a limited argument, and at the same time express the frustration of many of your (once loyal) customers. I hope (for PI's sake) this is helpful for you as a company when it comes to planning your future strategy. Again, my apologies.
Really you are not allowed to argue with devs on this forum? No one told me. If you have legitimate complaints bring them, we do listen. If you want to insult, shit talk or complain about moderation you won't be long for this forum to be quite frank.
Look do you think, we as devs really liked to see what people were saying about HoI3 at release? Do you think we were satisified do you think we thinking mission accomplished? We saw people with registered games with legitimate complaints (some were illegitimate, but let's not go there). We did 4 patches, one more than we planned for or budgeted for to do what we could to remedy this. Now you can disagree on if you think this is enough, but we didn't just simply abandon the game. Now I suppose we could just released a stand alone expansion by now, instead of patching.
What I think you have to realise is this, if we didn't release HoI3 there would of been no Paradox Interactive. We are not a rich company that can indefinately delay development. We sooner or later reach a point were we must ship and be damned. What we can do is learn lessons from releases that did not go smoothly and try to avoid this in the future.
It's challenging enough for me to keep my concentration ;-) I micromanage. Everything. ;-)
He didn't say it had nothing to do with HoI3, he said it had nothing to do with people buying HoI3 for cheap once discounted as Dev claimed.
Arguing with the developers has never been a problem as far as i can recall, its common that people here have discussions / arguments with Johan, King, etc. Arguing moderator decisions on the other hand (which all the devs are AFAIK), is not allowed. While it can sometimes be a bit difficult to separate the two, its mostly very straightforward.
There´s a good example of the latter on this thread about piracy ;P
One more game considering Vicky 2 or one more game after Vicky 2?
It is very unfair of you to say you can't argue in this forums, very unfair.
I don't like when people speak for "the whole community". Those are your opinions, while a lot of people have complained about some aspects of the latter patches, we've seen others that really enjoy the game now after 1.4. (and even before).
Paradox has already said, many times, they made mistakes with HOI3, if they are willing to accept that, why can't you? In other words it seems that by releasing a game with problems means that you'll forever be held hostage and you can't ever launch anything again because you have to spend your time fixing the game to infinity.
You didn't like HOI3 at launch, you don't like most of the aspects of the patches all that is fine. You can be constructive and try to improve them obviously. The show must go on though. I for one don't expect them to go broke trying to placate the horde of bashers of HOI3. Move on if you must.
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One more game considering Vicky 2 or one more game after Vicky 2?
I think it's all but written in stone that CK2 will be made after Vicky 2.
I will buy the game. I will be pre-ordering shortly. I do have to work this Sunday though (Still trying to figure out a way to play the game) Maybe they'll let me install it on my work computer?
(Still trying to figure out a way to play the game) Maybe they'll let me install it on my work computer? 
I don't know why, but the last part made me chuckle... :rofl:
...and I'll let you guys back on topic then.
Well we're the ones that actually put food on their tables.
You think the devs make nearly anything when the game gets sold for 7.99?