What are the Federal and American Republics?

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WilliamReddbane

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Mechanically speaking I know what these governments are, but from a historical standpoint what are they supposed to represent in regard to American History? I assume the "Federal Republic" represents the the U.S. Government after the ratification the Constitution in 1788, but what is the "American Republic" with it's 7 year election cycle and near identical flavor description supposed to be?
 

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I think the American republic represents the Articles of the confederation, which served as the first constitution of the US. (Making US a confederation, rather than a federation)
 

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Also, does anyone know how either government comes into effect and what the flavor text is for the event? Currently the wiki seems to be out of date as the "
Government Form" event doesn't mention either government (but a monarchy instead.)
 

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After examining the game code here is what I found:
"The first issue discussed for the new Constitution was the government form. The composition and election of the Senate, how to divide the executive power, between three persons or invest the power into a single president, how to elect the president and how long his term was to be and whether he could stand for reelection.\n\nThe two suggested government forms were 'American Republic', 'American Federation' and 'Constitutional Monarchy'."

This seems incredibly vague, flavor wise, but it discredits the idea of the "American Republic" being the U.S. government under the articles of Confederation, since either unique Government is the result of the Constitutional Convention, in which the Articles are superseded by a new Constitution. That the "Federal Republic" represents the Historical U.S. seems to be supported by this (and the stronger central government it provided helped the U.S. establish itself diplomatically among the European powers, thus the diplomatic bonuses), but what possible historical outcome does the "American Republic" represent? During the Convention the President was originally supposed to remain in office for 7 years, but that was amended to 4 years later; however there was a great deal of things up for debate besides this one point, and often with more than binary options. So what is the "American Republic" supposed to be, government wise, and why does it receive a bonus to STAB and war exhaustion reduction? It does not seem to match the "New Jersey Plan", which was the opposing major outline for the U.S. government; the Virginia Plan being outline that was eventually chosen and thus the basis for historical U.S. government.
 

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I think the American republic represents the Articles of the confederation, which served as the first constitution of the US. (Making US a confederation, rather than a federation)

Maybe, but we didn't have a president--or any executive--under the Articles, which was one of the reasons for their failure.
 

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I think we can assume without much doubt that the Federal Republic is the historical and current government of the US.

American Republic, though, I’m not quite sure. I think it may just be an abstraction of an alternative government form, taking bits and pieces of other ideas that were presented to govern the new nation. From what I can recall I don’t think there is any sort of real-world equivalent to it.
 

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Maybe, but we didn't have a president--or any executive--under the Articles, which was one of the reasons for their failure.
There was a head of state, though in domestic affairs the President of the Continental Congress was more like the Speaker of the House. If the American Republic is supposed to represent the Articles of Confederation, then it would be a national government without an executive or judicial branch. Otherwise, it could just represent a more direct democracy, more resembling later European republics, where the states have little power, especially when they are in conflict with the national government.