what are the chances, that Poland "folds" on "Danzig or war"?

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Is there a static probability like 20 %, 30 % or anything else?
 

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I hate static probabilities. If your actions, the actions of other parties, and the general situation at the time have no effect on the outcome, and it's all up to the dreaded Random Number Generator, it's not a "game".
 
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IIRC during the stream Johan hadn't guaranteed Poland, so it really made a lot of sense for them fold. I really hope they keep the AIs decision making weighted that way, cause it doesn't really make sense for Poalnd to engage in a suicidal war with no backup.
 
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IIRC during the stream Johan hadn't guaranteed Poland, so it really made a lot of sense for them fold. I really hope they keep the AIs decision making weighted that way, cause it doesn't really make sense for Poalnd to engage in a suicidal war with no backup.

True, which means, that the Allies have to keep all eyes on the Germans and WT, if they want to stop them...
 
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Is there a static probability like 20 %, 30 % or anything else?

Or maybe the in-game AI will make decisions intelligently?

Maybe there won't even be events of the kind that fired in HOI3 and this will be handled by an in-game mechanism? Why shouldn't I be allowed to demand "Aachen or war", or "Zurich or war", or "Strasbourg or war"?

Isn't the old system rather clunky and artificial?
 
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You mean like in history?

If the French had fulfilled their pledges to conduct offensives when the war started, things might not have gone so badly for Poland. Hell, the French just plain lied and said they were on the offensive after they recalled the troops sent on the Saar offensive.

If I were the leader of Poland, I wouldn't think it was suicidal unless I had satellite imagery of the French lying and screwing my country. And by then, it's too late anyway.
 
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If the French had fulfilled their pledges to conduct offensives when the war started, things might not have gone so badly for Poland. Hell, the French just plain lied and said they were on the offensive after they recalled the troops sent on the Saar offensive.

If I were the leader of Poland, I wouldn't think it was suicidal unless I had satellite imagery of the French lying and screwing my country. And by then, it's too late anyway.

True, France could have ended the war quick with the help of GB. The "Sitzkrieg" and their exports of weaponry were huge mistakes, which led to a longer war. I wait for the "polish satellite dlc" (with the satellite "beep beep" conposed by woldetoft) for HOI4 and probably buy it :D
 
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If the French had fulfilled their pledges to conduct offensives when the war started, things might not have gone so badly for Poland. Hell, the French just plain lied and said they were on the offensive after they recalled the troops sent on the Saar offensive.

If I were the leader of Poland, I wouldn't think it was suicidal unless I had satellite imagery of the French lying and screwing my country. And by then, it's too late anyway.
Aye, fair enough. I was mostly being sarcastic and it's not like we Brits were entirely blameless there either.
 

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But is this not what we want from the game?

If you want a historic game you need to follow the right path, Johan didn't and rightly Poland folded. I would hate to see the AI forced to do things cause it is bound were the player is not.

Johan knew when things had to happen by and didn't plan enough cause he was ignoring the historical British set up, so the cost should be his alone.
 
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But is this not what we want from the game?

If you want a historic game you need to follow the right path, Johan didn't and rightly Poland folded. I would hate to see the AI forced to do things cause it is bound were the player is not.

Johan knew when things had to happen by and didn't plan enough cause he was ignoring the historical British set up, so the cost should be his alone.

yea i hope they don't save scum it, its not like there wont be other www's with other nations in the future it would be nice to see why u should do certain things and not just reload when things don't go your way. play it like ironman mode parodox
 

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yea i hope they don't save scum it, its not like there wont be other www's with other nations in the future it would be nice to see why u should do certain things and not just reload when things don't go your way. play it like ironman mode parodox

They will, hopefully. I want to see war break out how it actually did before I see it break out a historically.
 

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yea i hope they don't save scum it, its not like there wont be other www's with other nations in the future it would be nice to see why u should do certain things and not just reload when things don't go your way. play it like ironman mode parodox
They want to reload because they want to show the war with poland, including germany getting danzig by conquering it.