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Gunnarr

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I am playing as Azum, and now am King of Abyssia or however it is spent. I have taken the Duchy which holds Nubia, and now I can create the Titular Kingdom of Nubia.

What am I supposed to do with this?

also, I gave a vassal the duchy there, but now it seems i am not allowed to create the title (it is grayed out, despite me having the mentioned requirements to create it) so now I am afraid the vassal might one day make it!

Should I not give the vassal the duchy there and always keep that duchy for myself? what do I do with this titular kingdom title!?!?!
 

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Nothing? Everything?

Titular Kingdoms give the prestige that any other Kingdom title does. The only question is whether you want a titular title to have land or not. If not, form the Kingdom you want, and make the Titular a secondary title. If you want it to become de jure then let it gain land.

As for the vassal fear, not gonna happen. A vassal can't create a title equal to his liege. He can inherit or conquer one though. It's why the Kingdom of Aquitaine doesn't break away from France.
 

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It has no land attached to it de jure, so vassals won't want it, and it gets you prestige, and you already are a King so it won't gain de jure land. No minuses to creating it that I can see, although creating it or not will have no real gameplay effect.
 

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as Emperor you can blob fastest when granting titular Kingdoms (cyprus, Nubia) to claimants, and then chunking out complete realms to add to your realm with just one war (no matter if they kill the claimant you put in place afterwards, it's too late, and they're all inside your borders now)
 

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The good thing about the titular king title is that, if you already have another royal title, you can create it and none of your vassals will bitch about it, while it will give you a prestige boost.
 

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The good thing about the titular king title is that, if you already have another royal title, you can create it and none of your vassals will bitch about it, while it will give you a prestige boost.

Exactly.

But watch gavelkind.
 

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as Emperor you can blob fastest when granting titular Kingdoms (cyprus, Nubia) to claimants, and then chunking out complete realms to add to your realm with just one war (no matter if they kill the claimant you put in place afterwards, it's too late, and they're all inside your borders now)

Why give them a kingdom when a barony will do as well???
 

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Thank you for all of your replies! Each and every one of you! I now know what to do... :)