What about the jews?

[unmerged(2456)]

Yea, but maybe this time cultures can have effects based on what the culture is.

 

[joriandrake]

Yea, but maybe this time cultures can have effects based on what the culture is.

I don't understand what you mean, please explain it.

 

[unmerged(53074)]

Well, this whole subject seems a little Jewish to me, but imho, the Jews were quite adequatly represented in EUII; I mean, you could take loans after all

Muahaha, what a joke! Wit of the year :rofl:

 

[BiB]

Er, we got them already in EU2 after all. Maltese anyone?

Canary

 

[Alexandre]

I can assure you there will not be any "holocost" events in EU3...

That would be progrom events, not Haulocaust events.

But, I'm sure that you're correct that none will be included.

Alexandre

 

[LordScod]

Canary

I never see Canary, It's Iberian every time I look.

 

[Tayran]

Er, we got them already in EU2 after all. Maltese anyone?

That might be true.. I just dont know if it would be kosher...

 

[joriandrake]

That might be true.. I just dont know if it would be kosher...

Jews could be angry and could ask why they were left out.

 

[unmerged(2456)]

I don't understand what you mean, please explain it.

kind of like the mongol culture does for CK, but not nessarily the same type of benifit.

 

[joriandrake]

kind of like the mongol culture does for CK, but not nessarily the same type of benifit.

that's not a good idea, if we start to give cultural bonuses and minuses, than this will start a war in the forums.



I already dislike 'latin', 'pagan', 'orthodox' techs and such.

 

[unmerged(7537)]

Canary

Which is particularly interesting because it lasts about 1 in-game year in the GC, at best...

 

[Registered]

Yea, but maybe this time cultures can have effects based on what the culture is.

Major can of worms that, probably best not to touch it.

 

[Tayran]

Jews could be angry and could ask why they were left out.

Indeed, its a tricky one. Since ZOG own all media, and I guess thats includes paradox, so maybe we should just leave the jews to them.

 

[BiB]

I never see Canary, It's Iberian every time I look.

Which is particularly interesting because it lasts about 1 in-game year in the GC, at best...

Or maybe you use a mod.

 

[unmerged(55432)]

Well, this whole subject seems a little Jewish to me, but imho, the Jews were quite adequatly represented in EUII; I mean, you could take loans after all

I'm sorry,
Me

*rimshots*

 

[unmerged(2456)]

that's not a good idea, if we start to give cultural bonuses and minuses, than this will start a war in the forums.



I already dislike 'latin', 'pagan', 'orthodox' techs and such.

not if they are softcoded and there can be useful reasons for them, FE, and they don't have to be hardcoded like the mongol benifits in CK (that is really the big argument in CK and the entent of their bonuses, not that they don't deserve them). Greeks also have hardcoded modifiers to their culture in that game when it comes to Byzantium.

If we don't do this we end up with "oh look...English have just as easy a time ruling over Han as the Japanese...syndrome.

 

[EUnderhill]

Yes, but to paraphrase my question from above: Is there something inherently special in the Jewishness of these bankers that makes it necessary to differentiate between Jewish and, say, Italian bankers? Why not just 'bankers'?

Ease of default (read expulsion) and IIRC ability to actually pay interest rather than use a cumbersome workaround would be that which I remeber to be the most distinctive qualities.

 

[Innocent]

Unless EUIII utilizes a similar pop system to Victoria (I doubt it shall) then there really is no role for Judaism in the game, unfortunately (and slightly inaccurate) though it is. The unfortunate fact is that much of the role Jews played in medeival history was a scapegoats and targets of violence, not something that Paradox has any reason to replicate (and many reasons to avoid) and thus there really is no reason to include them in the game. They're there, just living their lives and dying off like so many other of the common people who do little to shape the geopolitical world the game represents.

 

[Innocent]

Ease of default (read expulsion) and IIRC ability to actually pay interest rather than use a cumbersome workaround would be that which I remeber to be the most distinctive qualities.

Usary laws were not much of an obstacle by this point in history, and it seems doubtful that Jews will or should be included just to serve as sources of abusable revenue.

 

[teamgene]

Yeah, by the time of EU the Italian bankers were well in place. Well before EU starts, Edward III of England caused the financial ruin of several 'Italian bankers'.