What about tanks?

[Hive]

While I read about the features in Victoria I stumbled across the following army description: Troop types are Militia, Colonial Troops, Regular Infantry, Elite Guards, and Cavalry.

Well, this is all good - but since the game runs to 1920 (and therefore includes The Great War, WW1), aren't we missing anything? Tanks maybe? I'm not exactly an expert on WW1, but as I understand it tanks was an important factor in the allies victory...

Btw,am I the only one who dislikes the title being just 1 word? How can we find a short name for it like EU2 and HoI? I just don't think 'Vic' would cut it...

 

[HJ Tulp]

Tanks weren't essential for the Allied victory but I think they'll be represented as brigades

 

[unmerged(10401)]

well, tanks did be important, but they were used with troops, and not in tank squad.
so, if the war is like HOI, no tanks compagny...

 

[Hive]

Where they really not that essential?
I once read in a book that - roughly - WW1 was a trench war because the defence had grown stronger than the attack, and when the British invented the tank the attack was once again the stronger part.

Oh well, it's late in the game so it won't be of the most importance - but still...

 

[unmerged(12746)]

Brigades sounds like a decent option, but then again it would have to be researched, but brigade as Tulip says sounds good.

Odin

 

[HJ Tulp]

With or without tanks didn't make a difference just like gas didn't make a difference. The Allies had enough manpower to defeat Germany after the US joined in. More important fresh manpower.

 

[IEX Totalview]

Originally posted by Odin1970
Brigades sounds like a decent option, but then again it would have to be researched, but brigade as Tulip says sounds good.

Odin

Brigades will work for me. I would assume tanks would provide a nice offensive punch.

What about stormtroopers? From my understanding, by 1918 Germany had pretty much solved the trench warfare defenses problems using storm troopers tactics, they just ran out of dudes. Wonder if that will be implemented?

 

[Tim O]

I like the idea of attachable tank brigades, and I like the idea of stormtroopers even more!

 

[Caliga]

Damn Rhode Islander, ya beat me to it!

"These aren't the droids we're looking for, Woodrow Wan-Wilson"

 

[IEX Totalview]

Originally posted by IEX Totalview
Brigades will work for me. I would assume tanks would provide a nice offensive punch.

What about stormtroopers? From my understanding, by 1918 Germany had pretty much solved the trench warfare defenses problems using storm troopers tactics, they just ran out of dudes. Wonder if that will be implemented?

Great. I've just killed this thread to Star Wars spam. I am truly sorry.

 

[jdrou]

Originally posted by IEX Totalview
Great. I've just killed this thread to Star Wars spam. I am truly sorry.

We should call them 'Stosstruppen' to avoid that. (Even if countries other than Germany can potentially create them in the game.)

 

[King of Men]

Originally posted by HJ Tulp
With or without tanks didn't make a difference just like gas didn't make a difference. The Allies had enough manpower to defeat Germany after the US joined in. More important fresh manpower.

This is not completely accurate, the tanks were a great force multiplier when used properly. Unfortunately this only happened once, namely at Cambrai. But they were never the decisive war-winning arm, as in WWII, so brigades should be fair enough; and maybe the first few 'tank' technologies should be quite ineffective to represent doctrinal difficulties.

 

[Hive]

Okay, but what about air units? Remember the Red Baron anyone?

 

[unmerged(16421)]

Originally posted by Hive
Okay, but what about air units? Remember the Red Baron anyone?

in HoI we have cooperation between planes and subs merged with the subs abilities.
the idea can be used for the recognition role of the planes, and something similar can be done for the air denial role. don't ask me about the zeppelins over london ok?

 

[unmerged(16421)]

most important: i would like to buy a product with a strong focus.
if you put inside too much things about '900 tech, it risks to prevail on the "nations raising" focus i'd like to see.
(german and italian unifications, nationalism and the like).
thanks, guys!

 

[Tamas]

I think it would be enough if gas, tanks, and planes would only be reprsented as researchable technologies, giving various bonuses to units.

 

[unmerged(15764)]

as long as they dont make th planes like in hoi i hated that! 1000000 clicks per minute lol...

 

[Ksim3000]

Well in HOI you could research Paratroopers, Marines and Rockets as seperate units so maybe they'll do this in Victoria for Tanks and Planes?

 

[unmerged(10945)]

I would hope the tech tree spills a bit beyond the game's timeframe like it did in HOI, so that the very beginnings of both real tank and air doctrines could be researched and put to use if a person goes down the research path that far.

 

[Tim O]

THe Tech tree should probably reach to 1930, but no farther.