Westernization: What else?

[Nukeitall]

Hey guys,

Trying to westernize Wallachia, but there seems to be a snag: while I have the event fired, it seems I now have a near permanent +50% stability modifier (Western Influences).

I'm no historian, but I gather this should have gone away within 10 years, or 20. I've had it for 50. Anyone westernized? how does it actually work? The tooltips seem...vague.

 

[LordLeto]

You have to modernize your military, it will replace it with another negative effect that will disappear in 20 years iirc.

 

[Nukeitall]

You have to modernize your military, it will replace it with another negative effect that will disappear in 20 years iirc.

So...I need to periodically indulge "resist westernization" to keep the slider from making reverse progress?

These -1 centralization hits are murder.

 

[ujjain]

How to westernize without being screwed:

1. Westernize
2. Click 'resist western influences or be screwed'
3. Wait until you have the qualifications to westernize military, this can be painful. But until you have westernized the military, the event 'resist western influences' will trigger. You should accept 10 years of resist western influences unless you can westernize the military very very soon.

 

[LordLeto]

Pretty much yeah. Its another National Decision.

http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Westernisation

Modernizing Units
Requirements

The requirements for modernizing the military are:

* Nation has a higher tech group than unit type (Latin tech group but Muslim units, Eastern tech group but New World units, etc.)
* Have a ruler with administrative skills of 7 or more
* Nation is not under the effect of Resisting Western Influences
* Nation is highly centralized (To get Muslim units, Centralization of -3 or less; Eastern, -4 or less; Latin, -5. Note that you cannot choose to modernize to units of any tech group other than your current one.)

Effects

* Unit type changes to current tech group's
* Two steps towards Decentralization
* Western Influences is removed
* Action and Reaction is added for 2 years (Muslim units), 3 years (Eastern), or 4 years (Latin), with the effects
o Stability cost +25%
o Global revolt risk +6
o Government/land/naval tech investment -5
o Cultural tradition -4%

Emphasis mine. Resisting Western Influences is a 10 year long negative effect, so make sure you time stuff right, 7 Admin monarchs can be rather hard to come by. But until your situation is right(fully centralized to make the jump to latin, +3 stab, and a 7 Admin monarch), theres no real benefit to telling people to shove it when they complain, especially when it gives -2 RR for a minor prestige hit. The other options are rather ugly, ranging from a decentralization hit to revolts.