Because it can be done just as easy as selling a coastal province without the need to go conquer problomatic provence for the period of westernisation
Takes less time, you just need a cogdrop.
westernization strategy for a (strong) outsider
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Takes less time, you just need a cogdrop.
Depends, sometimes selling can take as little as a single offer.
With that Cog drop you got to hope that your target doesnt bring in someone with a superior navy and you can take is province in a single go and peace out everyone
, then you got an overseas province thats going to be rebelling a lot requireing you to station troops that would be better off in your home country smacking down westernising inducing rebel stacks.
It is not like that you need to keep this province. You need it only until you fully westernize.
Which depending on your luck/size can take a decent amount of time. A high stability cost and/or a good leader dieing can set you back easily over 10 years.
One easy trick that hasn't been mentioned yet - naval countries in Asia can simply invade Africa.
Attack Mutapa or any other pagans with the free CB, and wait for the provinces to core to extend your colonial range, or get the first Westernisation step off fast-teching Muslims like Oman. Then, if the Iberians have invaded the Maghreb or the sub-Saharan region, start a colony next to their territory - it doesn't need to be fully complete. Better yet, if Europeans are at war with the countries there, just declare war as well and take the chance to grab one province from the locals.
Once you've fully Westernised, the province can simply be sold to avoid wars. But if you have a big enough navy you can just take it on the chin and let them DoW you, and watch them dash their fleets against your wooden wall.
As unified Japan, I ran up against Burgundy, the Papal States, and GB (in the 1500s!) on the west coast of Africa, which I had seized from Animist Songhai. I gave Burgundy and the Papal States military access, but GB refused and DoWed me - bad idea, as I proceeded to blockade their entire island with my huge fleet, so much for rule Britannia! The only time I felt caught out by the Europeans was when I took the -6 stab from military modernisation, and both Burgundy and the Papal States declared Holy War at the same time. Burgundy took -5 stab and a (ineffectual) blockade for their troubles, while the Papal States, despite being clever enough to cancel military access, peaced out quickly. I hate to imagine what might have happened if both of them had taken the war all the way as their combined navies were larger than mine.
Attack Mutapa or any other pagans with the free CB, and wait for the provinces to core to extend your colonial range, or get the first Westernisation step off fast-teching Muslims like Oman. Then, if the Iberians have invaded the Maghreb or the sub-Saharan region, start a colony next to their territory - it doesn't need to be fully complete. Better yet, if Europeans are at war with the countries there, just declare war as well and take the chance to grab one province from the locals.
Once you've fully Westernised, the province can simply be sold to avoid wars. But if you have a big enough navy you can just take it on the chin and let them DoW you, and watch them dash their fleets against your wooden wall.
As unified Japan, I ran up against Burgundy, the Papal States, and GB (in the 1500s!) on the west coast of Africa, which I had seized from Animist Songhai. I gave Burgundy and the Papal States military access, but GB refused and DoWed me - bad idea, as I proceeded to blockade their entire island with my huge fleet, so much for rule Britannia! The only time I felt caught out by the Europeans was when I took the -6 stab from military modernisation, and both Burgundy and the Papal States declared Holy War at the same time. Burgundy took -5 stab and a (ineffectual) blockade for their troubles, while the Papal States, despite being clever enough to cancel military access, peaced out quickly. I hate to imagine what might have happened if both of them had taken the war all the way as their combined navies were larger than mine.
Unless your not high enough tech for that yet
and if you do so as a large empire, you may have lost yourself a fair bit of time in order to get back lost stability.