Westernization and vassals/protectorates

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Thrake

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Last game, I annexed Maya. Westernized, then I thought I would release them. I did not check - it released a protectorate. It was just not planned. Worst: they westernized, and broke free! Refused diplo vassal. So I declared war on them, and had to do it twice, because too big to vassalize in 1 war (not sure why; before westernization, 1 war was enough...). Now, what would happen if I release them, and then westernize. Would they stay as vassals? Or become protectorate?
 

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Any vassals you have before westernizing will remain vassals when you start westernizing.
 

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The pagan CB reduces costs on annexing provinces and vassalisation. When they westernized you cant use this CB anymore but probably used conquest, heresy/holy war or revolutionary war CB. Those CB's wont reduce costs on vassalisation.
 

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this protectorate sucks balls ...
i mean you cant vassel any india etc its so stuuuupid ... i mean spending thousends of points for coring because you cant vassal so much is SO stupid :( i hate hate hate HATE protectorates so much :( destorys alot of game spirit
i even destroyed my game as osmans when i released timurids prepatch (so they got a protectorate) and i lost because damn they was HUUUGE .... now in current state they would be vassal again so ... its looks so STUPID
i understand that they make protectorates ingame but when you REALISE them ... they fuckn should be a VASSAL