Western Anatolia should have Greek culture

[ForVictory]

Western Anatolian provinces along the coast and even the black sea should have Greek culture instead of Turkish at this time.

 

[JSparks101]

This has been heavily debated. Very heavily......

Personally, I think their should be a few Greek places in Western Anatolia (as I think in the Balkans for Turkish).

 

[Wixelt]

They would have been closer to Pontic after Turkish, not Greek.

 

[Calanon]

Not this again...

They repopulated with Greeks after the start date.

 

[master_kong]

Again, this? For having a Greek culture provinces in Anatolia we should have more provinces. For Example a small port city(İzmir/Smyrna), Biga same way etc. But with this current situation Turks were more dominant in general.

 

[Aramenian]

 

[Wixelt]

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Greek =/= Hellenic

 

[PurpulaPhoenixum53]

Greek =/= Hellenic

I realize that Greek didn't resurge until 18th century. Do you think that the Ottomans should get some events about such migrations.

 

[Celdur]

Greek =/= Hellenic

WTF? Greek = Hellenic, of course it does, Greece is not even called Greece its the "Hellenic Republic" and they have always from the 20th century BC unti the 1920's constituted a majority in the cities of Western Anatolia and under the Roman Empire a majority in all the cities of Anatolia and this slowly changed over time under the Ottoman Empire, but was not completed until after WW1.

The Turks occupied another geographic area, mainly the Anatolian Plateau which was great for ther pastoral lifestyle and didn't have significant native Anatolian/Greek population. Which is why they could never be pushed from centra Anatolia whenever the ERE recovered strenght under certain emperors.

 

[dayalu]

on Smyrna: "In 1402, however, Timur (Tamerlane) won the Battle of Ankara against the Ottomans, putting a serious check on the Ottoman state for the two following decades and handing back the territories of most of the Beyliks to their former ruling dynasties. Timur attacked and destroyed Smyrna and was responsible for the massacre of most of the Christian population, which constituted the vast majority in Smyrna." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/İzmir As for Cappadocia: "Over the course of the 15th century the Ottoman Turks conquered Cappadocia from the Seljuk Turks, the Cappadocian countryside remained largely Greek populated, with a smaller Armenian population even after the Ottoman conquest.[38] During the reign of Ottoman Sultan Murad III (1574 to 1595) the region of Cappadocia became largely Turkified in culture and language through a gradual process of acculturation."- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cappadocian_Greeks

 

[JSparks101]

Cappadocian Greeks should definatly be in, as should an Armenian province or two near Adana.

Maybe a west coast city or two, maybe...

Maybe extension of Pontic around the coast.

Also, Griko would be a two prov culture in Southern Italy

 

[CelticWarrior95]

man stop. they ain't gonna do it. they said it many times. just mod it yourselves into the game, they want to keep the ottomans as overpowered as possible.

 

[Aramenian]

I would like the culture in adana to be Armenian and to create a kingdom of cilicia using Kharabakh

flag

Coat of arms

knights of cilicia

Source of information about Cilicia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Kingdom_of_Cilicia


sorry for my English

 

[Aussiehawker]

The Resettlement argument isn't even a good counter, considering that development is supposed to be a representation of the average of that province over the games course. Otherwise Constantinople would start off with tiny development, uncolonised provinces would all be 1/1/1 and a host of other changes.

 

[PurpulaPhoenixum53]

Source of information about Cilicia.

Why not have this be a suggestion for Armenian Tier 1 Unit. Sorry to get off subject

 

[Reavici]

Aramenian, but Cilician Armenia was just Armenian kingdom that spawned in Cilician region after mass migration of Armenians to this area. Armenians just restored their kingship in another area, since their ex-homeland near Van lake area was occupied by Turk-Seljuqs... so I think extra tag is not needed.

 

[withche.07]

I would like the culture in adana to be Armenian and to create a kingdom of cilicia using Kharabakh

flag

Coat of arms

knights of cilicia

Source of information about Cilicia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Kingdom_of_Cilicia


sorry for my English

I suggested it to be divided as Sis (Armenian culture) is holy site for Coptic for formable Cilicia.

 

[Aramenian]

Proposal for the division of Adana
1.Adana -Turkish name of cities.
2.Kozan -Turkish name of cities.

 

[Kljunas]

They would have been closer to Pontic after Turkish, not Greek.

Pontic... aka Pontic Greek?

 

[Wixelt]

Pontic... aka Pontic Greek?

Pontic is Greek enthicity, but it is a separate culture in the same group in-game.