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If I was in a personal thrall, that is essentially a change of role, no? I have not been informed of this, and surely if your role changes, you would be informed?

GM?

Also, as you all should know, I have no qualms with Euro dying a painful death, but.....for once I actually think he's telling the truth.

I must request protection tonight, assuming I'm not in a personal thrall and Euro/somebody else lynches alone, as if Lord_D is lying/has false info, lynching Euro then hunting me would be a good days work for the wolves.
 

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Excuse me but ehh.. If you're a thrall, you having contact with the seer is ehm.. either a lie or either pretty unimportant. I mean, you'd be a baddie. D'oh.

Indeed - not only that but if he is a thrall he's surely a danger to any JL?

I'm a villager.

That is exactly what I said yesterday.
You've been outed, bog off and die with dignity. Vampy sorc.
 

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If I was in a personal thrall, that is essentially a change of role, no? I have not been informed of this, and surely if your role changes, you would be informed?

GM?
If someone gets successfully blood sucked by a baddie pack, then he will gain the trait "blood cursed". The pack will be informed of their success. The target will not be informed he was attacked. Nothing else will happen. Next time the target is successfully targeted by either a bloodsucking or a vampire hunt (doesn't have to be from the pack that blood sucked him). Then he will turn into a Personal Thrall. His old role will be lost. Either a Vampire or a Vampire Sorcerer from the pack will become his master. It is the packs decision who. If they fail to make a decision, fate will choose. Both the now converted target and the pack will be informed of what happened. The targets traits will be kept.

For other things about bloodsucking. Look at the rules, or ask again :)
 

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If I was in a personal thrall, that is essentially a change of role, no? I have not been informed of this, and surely if your role changes, you would be informed?

GM?

Also, as you all should know, I have no qualms with Euro dying a painful death, but.....for once I actually think he's telling the truth.

I must request protection tonight, assuming I'm not in a personal thrall and Euro/somebody else lynches alone, as if Lord_D is lying/has false info, lynching Euro then hunting me would be a good days work for the wolves.

I'm not quite sure what you're saying there. What role do you claim to have exactly?
 

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I'm not quite sure what you're saying there. What role do you claim to have exactly?

Villager is a role ;)

And now, going by what the GM has said - I could very well be blood cursed, but I am NOT in a personal thrall. Unless the wolves/Euro randomly decided to try and turn me, they haven't had the time.
 

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If this claim is true, (which I really believe it is*) then this means that the Gangrel pack has been wiped out, and all people affiliated to it, so any more analysis will be impossible until we find a wolf from another pack

*Both of them voted Eternaly_Lost, I said earlier those that voted EL were good targets but I left EURO out at the time because he was apparently JL
Just to let you all know I'm a genius;):p




@Lord_D: It really doesn't matter what Walrus is saying, we'll find out tomorrow whether or not Walrus is EURO's thrall when we lynch EUROO7, if he lives then we'll know he's innocent anyway, so there's no point in hypothesising about it atm, so get back to your parish and say the best darned mass you've ever said:mad:

@AVN: Why do you not play anymore?
 

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Finally, a second JL claimant. If this is another baddie trick, then I don't care, as the seer, priest, etc. have had plenty of opportunities to come forward by now. If the village loses because of stuff like this, it's their fault.

Vote Euro

Because if my contact actually is the seer, but has simply been misled by mind control/some nefarious GM doings, revealing their name so they can be hunted or lynched would be rather counter-productive for the villager ;)

Edit: The only person other than me who knows the name of my contact is Euro, as I had to tell him so he didn't lynch me in a bout of furious rage.

Edit2: Mwah ha ha, my lurking powers are much stronger than yours Euro!

Again, if the vampire sorc(s) know who the seer is, we cannot trust the result of the seer scans ever, at least until we eliminate the sorc(s). Effectively, the seer is already dead. He has no reason to hide anymore.

You were a good lynch choice two days ago, and you're a good lynch now. If you are indeed Euro's thrall, we'll get rid of you tonight anyways. If Euro is a goodie, you die tomorrow. Either way, you're screwed. Game over, man. Good night Gracie.
 

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This is already a great game to follow :)
Thanks guys :)

If only it were easier for the people in the middle of it to make heads or tails of it ;-)


Vote EURO


If we don't lynch him now we will just have another bandwagon on him tomorrow, I reckon. Might as well get it over with.

marty99 said:
if he lives then we'll know he's innocent anyway

Then we just know he wasn't EURO's thrall. Not neccessarily that he isn't somebody elses.

thistletooth said:
if the vampire sorc(s) know who the seer is, we cannot trust the result of the seer scans ever, at least until we eliminate the sorc(s)

It's worse - the mindcontrol stays after the sorcerer who put it there is gone.

The seer coming forward is not actually a good idea - if EURO is the sorcerer who put that mindcontrol on him then the seer coming forward will just invite another sorcerer (presuming there is one) to mindcontrol the seer in a different way, making his scans even more useless.
 

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Lynch me, I don't care anymore.

But tomorrow, lynch Lord_D for his blatant metagaming.

He outs me as a scanned whatever, then gives reason and analysis to lynch me? :rolleyes: He's clearly made up the ''scanned'' bit and just wants me dead for being me.
 

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If this claim is true, (which I really believe it is*) then this means that the Gangrel pack has been wiped out, and all people affiliated to it, so any more analysis will be impossible until we find a wolf from another pack

Why would it mean Gangrel pack is wiped out?

Again, if the vampire sorc(s) know who the seer is, we cannot trust the result of the seer scans ever, at least until we eliminate the sorc(s). Effectively, the seer is already dead. He has no reason to hide anymore.

It doesn't matter if the sorcerer is dead or alive, the mind control stays in effect. I think if properly executed this would actually make the seer - or any scanner for that matter - defunct and his scanning abilities redundant.
 

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Lynch me, I don't care anymore.

But tomorrow, lynch Lord_D for his blatant metagaming.

He outs me as a scanned whatever, then gives reason and analysis to lynch me? :rolleyes: He's clearly made up the ''scanned'' bit and just wants me dead for being me.

Metagaming?

I haven't played in almost a year :p
 

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Also, walrus is the seer who's being toyed with by the sorc, and we know J. Pass is not a vamp because he scanned him last night, and got that he was a vamp.
 

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Metagaming?

I haven't played in almost a year :p
Yes, you're still bitter about that game where no one listened to you about me.

Don't worry, you'll be lynched tomorrow.
 

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Yes, you're still bitter about that game where no one listened to you about me.

Don't worry, you'll be lynched tomorrow.

But I won that game. Thanks to you. And I was proven right. It was supa-dupa-awesome!
 

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It's worse - the mindcontrol stays after the sorcerer who put it there is gone.

The seer coming forward is not actually a good idea - if EURO is the sorcerer who put that mindcontrol on him then the seer coming forward will just invite another sorcerer (presuming there is one) to mindcontrol the seer in a different way, making his scans even more useless.

That's...way overpowered. Like...game ruiningly overpowered.
 

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But I won that game. Thanks to you. And I was proven right. It was supa-dupa-awesome!
Yes, but right now, you're making up this fake outing just because you think I should be lynched.

I should -not- be lynched. I've been cleared by the seer, and hopefully the priest too if he knows what he's doing.

In your bullshit post, you say that I should be lynched even if I'm a villager. That's just metagaming, or you're a baddie. I hope you're a baddie, because then I can applaud your successful misleading of the village, but if you're a goodie just lynching me for shits and giggles, then I hope you die a long and painful death, provided by our dear GM.

Now recant your fake outing, unless you want the full force of the laws of Eurodynamics to fall upon your head.

Also, randakar is right. Walrus, you're useless now.