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I didn't know he was a wolf, for all I know the inactives were wolves. I just dislike to have a game filled with extremely inactive people for whatever reason. If there is no case to suspect or lynch someone active, I will go after inactive people instead of active players every time.

They are a pain in the bum - why do they waste a signup spot?
 

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Just to annoy you ;)

More likely is they forgot or something came up.

It not like this game started so soon after they signed up.
 

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More likely is they forgot or something came up.

It not like this game started so soon after they signed up.
True. Also, neither have responded to their initial role PM, or posted in the thread, so PM'ing them again is unlikely to do any good. As GM, I hope two villagers die tonight so I can sub them out.
 

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J. Passepartout, rexodia48 and Emperor Walter all voted for trespoe yesterday and today so it seems likely that whatever there reason was yesterday it would be the same today.

Well my reason is we got two baddies the first two days all because of randomness and if we're lucky then we'll nab another one tonight. It's not likely but we might.
 

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Vote randakar

Hmn, more votes without a given reason, this one on me.

Mind elaborating or is this just one of those "I can't be bothered to think about the game so I'll pick someone random" things?
 

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They are a pain in the bum - why do they waste a signup spot?
there are no limits to signups in BIG games. as such, it is impossible to "waste a signup spot"... however, they are wastes of the time of active players
 

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Vote Eternaly_Lost

He brought trespoe up to a tie with baddie Yakman.
 

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Just to annoy you ;)

They succeed. :eek:o

there are no limits to signups in BIG games. as such, it is impossible to "waste a signup spot"... however, they are wastes of the time of active players

Well they waste the spot in that they take the place and do nothing with it. They also waste time walrus could be busy looking for his bukkit, and waste players/scanners/packmates time.
 

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Vote Thistletooth
My reasoning was provided yesterday, I'll see if I can be bothered finding it

Well I have you down as voting yesterday for the TIE, so it must have been another post you made.
 

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Well I have you down as voting yesterday for the TIE, so it must have been another post you made.

Someone other than me mentioned TT's dicking around with the votes - was it Marty?

Vote TT if it was anyone other than TT acting like that he would be hanged, and I don't discriminate.
 

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Well they waste the spot in that they take the place and do nothing with it. They also waste time walrus could be busy looking for his bukkit, and waste players/scanners/packmates time.

yuppers
 

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-What? I help to lynch Kriszo instead of either Lemmy or snoop. I break a Yakman-trespoe tie by voting to lynch Yakman, and I leave my vote there until it's clear he's gonna swing. Just how does this merit multiple votes? Trespoe's vote, I can understand. He's scared and angry. The rest of you...I don't know what to say.

Et tu, jonti?

EDIT: Regarding the revoting, I was trying to avoid a three-way tie. When I first switched my vote around, it left Lemmy an opening to create such a tie. Given that it's Lemmy, I had every reason to believe he'd create such a tie if given the opportunity. Before I switched, the votes were thus:

Lemmy: 6
snoop: 4
Kriszo: 3

I then switched from Lemmy to Kriszo, making it:

Lemmy: 5
snoop: 4
Kriszo: 4

That's a dangerous vote count with Lemeards about. His revelation of being Brian Irons required me to go check exactly what a Brian Irons was and whether or not its worth saving. There was a couple of minutes left, and the two of us were the only ones then active in the thread. Once jonti switched, that made it possible to spare Lemmy and get Kriszo killed instead, so I immediately jumped on that. If I hadn't have wanted Kriszo dead, I easily could have waited another forum minute and made that last vote switch a minute late (I've done it before as a wolf), or just blame the confusion for my not switching at all.

Lynching me for casting key votes on two known baddies would be quite stupid. Anyone who's been in a pack with me knows that I don't betray my allies.
 
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Btw, what do we think about the pack setup?
Are we not learning the name of WD and Yakman's wolf pack's because there only is one, or, as I think more likely, Walrus just isn't telling us?

Yakman voted for Kriszo midway through the 1st day, this could be a cynical wolf sacrificing his cultist to gain credibility, but given that Yakman later switched to Lemeard, I think not. He could have voted Kriszo intending to use it as a possible alibi later in game if Kriszo was killed, but then switched when he was he had the chance to save him, but I don't think he set out specifically to sell him out, otherwise he wouldn't have wavered.
Atm I'm leaning towards the idea that Yakman wasn't in contact with Kriszo, which means there are definitely two different packs or else some random permutation to the cultist role (which there is anyway, going by the first post).

But I think they're in separate packs, which means we preferably should run up people who didn't have a hand in lynching either Kriszo or Yakman, unless there is an outstanding case against someone else, I personally don't see an outstanding case against Trespoe, who voted for Yakman, however that was to save himself, so I'm fine with lynching him, but I've yet to see why he's so much more suspicious than everyone else


Seeing Lemeard's outing of himself TT changes away, then after a few minutes edits back to Lemeard

Thistletooth said:
Unvote Lemmy
Vote Kriszo

I'll believe you, for now.

EDIT:
Unvote Kriszo
Vote snoop

EDIT: Unvote snoop
Vote Lemmy


Slightly later, seeing jonti's vote-switch and that Kriszo had the momentum, he changed away from Lemeard
Unvote Lemmy
Vote Kriszo

Now it's probable he was just doing this 4 teh lulz, and TT isn't the n00b wolf that would recklessly switch to save a packmate in danger, but the fact is his vote-switching favoured the lynching of Lemeard over Kriszo, who did turn out to be a cultist. He did vote Kriszo twice but then switched away almost immediately in a vote-edit, the kind of thing a wolf might do to try and gain a wee bit of credibility, planning his vote-edits in advance.

Not a great case to be sure (although it's on the same basis as Yakman's and with a bit more circumstantial evidence), but there isn't much better out there.
I don't think he should be lynched over this because he's returning, but I think he should be scanned by the seer at least

That was my reasoning for TT being a possible wolf
Also later on he unvoted Yakman but didn't vote Trespoe, the textbook sign of a wolf trying to help packmate but not wanting to commit himself
I said I'd prefer him scanned but meh, we need another candidate
 

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-What? I help to lynch Kriszo instead of either Lemmy or snoop.
Tbh you had little choice but to do so, Lemeard had outed himself, and even then you did hesitate a lot

I break a Yakman-trespoe tie by voting to lynch Yakman, and I leave my vote there until it's clear he's gonna swing.
A wolf sacrificing another when it's highly possible he might die anyway is not exactly clearing,


Just how does this merit multiple votes? Trespoe's vote, I can understand. He's scared and angry. The rest of you...I don't know what to say.
Well, we need to have someone else rather than Trespoe run up, and I don't like the case against Slinky
Also I am strongly against lynching someone who has already been run up i.e. Trespoe, IMHO it is a total waste of voting information


EDIT: Darn ninja editing
You're not being entirely truthful TT regarding your switching to Lemeard, if you look back you voted and unvoted several people in the space of a few minutes
 

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EDIT: Darn ninja editing
You're not being entirely truthful TT regarding your switching to Lemeard, if you look back you voted and unvoted several people in the space of a few minutes

I went snoop-->Lemmy-->Kriszo-->snoop-->Kriszo, the middle three all in that one post. I switched at first to try to pull the vote off of Lemmy. Noticing that that would have given Lemmy a chance to pull off a massive TIE, and with no one else around, I switched off Kriszo again. It just seemed too risky. When jonti came in and switched, I immediately voted Kriszo again. That's the third time I've said that. I really don't know how else to explain it, it seems pretty straightforward to me.

Now, I have to leave for a few hours. If you're going to vote for someone suspicious, good. But that person really should not be me.