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Might be. Could maybe solve this by doing alternating hunts?

Though there is the interesting option of trying to out the other pack as well.

Any reason no wolfy JLs were started?

We were going to, then the real JL did it for us after outing their own seer so the other pack knew it wasn't us.
 

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We were sending our orders to the other pack, and we faked an order to him while sending in our real order to just bagricula. He's a bit too trusting.

Besides random day 1 votes and a JL got the other pack, we just put them out of their misery.

Come on, I used that BS in Diplomacy when I was playing with Tamius as Germany...
 

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Come on, I used that BS in Diplomacy when I was playing with Tamius as Germany...

Maybe, but if he went against us he was dead anyways, his hunt wouldn't have even gotten through.

If he stayed alive he still had a chance to win. At the point of 3 wolves vs 1 I would hope the other pack didn't attack me and continued to help them with the hope that the village gets one or two. The only thing he would've been able to do in that situation is help the village.
 

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Maybe, but if he went against us he was dead anyways, his hunt wouldn't have even gotten through.

His hunt would have gone through.
 

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About the setup, it still has the problem.. erm, feature :) that Napoleon could have outed all the wolves of the other pack. And, seeing that we would confirm that he was a wolf, we would proceed to lynch the other pack.

If he stayed alive he still had a chance to win. At the point of 3 wolves vs 1 I would hope the other pack didn't attack me and continued to help them with the hope that the village gets one or two. The only thing he would've been able to do in that situation is help the village.

Hope what? Yeah, with seer dead, he would wait that the other pack wouldn't hunt/lynch him... especially being so close to parity. right...
 

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About the setup, it still has the problem.. erm, feature :) that Napoleon could have outed all the wolves of the other pack. And, seeing that we would confirm that he was a wolf, we would proceed to lynch the other pack.

I noticed this before the game started, and kept mum about it to avoid it detonating in my face.
 

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JL members...was having scanned villagers die off much of an issue? I don't actually recall it being so...I do remember Adamus scanning Napoleon XIX on Evening 1.
 

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About the setup, it still has the problem.. erm, feature :) that Napoleon could have outed all the wolves of the other pack. And, seeing that we would confirm that he was a wolf, we would proceed to lynch the other pack.



Hope what? Yeah, with seer dead, he would wait that the other pack wouldn't hunt/lynch him... especially being so close to parity. right...

I figured they would do this...but no dice.
 

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About the setup, it still has the problem.. erm, feature :) that Napoleon could have outed all the wolves of the other pack. And, seeing that we would confirm that he was a wolf, we would proceed to lynch the other pack.



And what benefit would this bring to napoleon?

Screwing the rival pack? Sure, you could then out the remaining wolf, and village would win. It depends on whom Napoleon had preferred to win, your pack or the village. This is somewhat of a problem.

This setup requires way too much trust for Paradox WW. Any ideas to fix that? A rule banning outing the entire enemy pack? Would be hard to enforce. It's a shame, because I think the two pack setup has potential. Perhaps establishing one wolf as liaison with the other pack, so both packs only know one wolf of the other pack?
 

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About the setup, it still has the problem.. erm, feature :) that Napoleon could have outed all the wolves of the other pack. And, seeing that we would confirm that he was a wolf, we would proceed to lynch the other pack.





Screwing the rival pack? Sure, you could then out the remaining wolf, and village would win. It depends on whom Napoleon had preferred to win, your pack or the village. This is somewhat of a problem.

Think of the future consequences though. If you did that you'd be pretty much hunt number one if you were a werewolf in the opposing pack to prevent that from happening.

You would never win if you did that because the other pack could never trust you to keep your mouth shut if you were going to die, and all the games where you were a wolf would almost inevitably lead to a village win.
 

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Oh, it would indeed. That's why it is a problem.
 

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JL members...was having scanned villagers die off much of an issue? I don't actually recall it being so...I do remember Adamus scanning Napoleon XIX on Evening 1.

What JL? I still have no idea what Adamus was playing at.
 

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JL members...was having scanned villagers die off much of an issue? I don't actually recall it being so...I do remember Adamus scanning Napoleon XIX on Evening 1.

Scanned villagers dying? Me and Kiwi were operating on the assumption that Adamus was a wolf, although Kiwi thought that we were both wolves.

I didn't out him because I didn't want to be doing one pack's bidding while the other would hunt me for being in (I)JL.
 

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You idiots I told you I was innocent.
 

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Narration added to final update in sonnet form!

Working on house-keeping in the first post.
 

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Also did you all enjoy the storyline? I more or less got to wrap up everything I wanted by Day/Night 4.

By the way, sorry, Falc you didn't get to RP more.
 

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But you didn't obey to the 9th law of Werewolf, "Thou shall come up with a better target than thyself for thy lynch."
 

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