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Now you're just tempting fate ;)

And thanks for the coloured votecounts *studies*
I fully expect to be hunted tonight so I can tempt fate all I want, it can't get any worse.

Oh, and if there actually is a changeling left please take the hint and protect me (or trespoe who I think also is at the top of the hunt list).
 

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Nice work on the count there Johho :)
 

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death to the village!


Now you're just being all angry ghost-like.
Besides you're saying it wrong: Here's a more realistic statement:

I wish a mildly unpleasant lynching which does not involve any violence at all since it's all just letters on an internet forum upon the wolves! May your deaths be quick and contain lots of red letters!

(ok, ok, fine. I realize that this may be a tad too much realism. :p )

 

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Day 2, Night 3

OY was outed early

Day 3, Night 4
No-kill Night 4
Was this when Emperor Walter was attacked?

Yes. He was "formerly blessed" when he died.

Note how randakar's PM that EURO got hold of was addressed to trespoe, not EURO, not Hax.

yes, my understanding is that randakar scanned me the previous night, and was just including Hax and Euro who had been scanned previously to me.
Day 7, Night 8

4 jonti-h - trespoe, Hax, Slinky, johho888
4 Saintis/Valesco2 - Lemard, White Daimon, Syber_sid/AOK. 11, jonti-h
2 Hax - oky/walrus, Saintis/Valesco2
This time the vote count actually was the same as in the update. Are all silencers dead?

It would seem so. Or else they forgot to do anything.
 

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Go Village!

This message has been paid for by JDMS's ghost.
 

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Last night was Night 9 (if my numbering is correct) which means next hunt is from the Eurowolves (probably Hax) so does this mean we get a free no-kill night if we lynch him now?

We also have the problem with the missing 4th in command (if there is one - but last update talked about 1 pilot + 5 passengers so there probably is). All the other leaders have been goodies but something Hax said when he was about to get lynched sounded like he was the current leader. If this is true then Hax has won his first big WW game since he can use the leader ability to save himself, lynch one of the potential non-Euros, eat the other and achieve parity together with Lemeard tomorrow. Well, come to think of it, maybe not, if Hax lynches a goodie and eats a baddie then he loses his leader ability and Lemeard can instead chose to win with the remaining goodies by lynching Hax tomorrow.

Looks like Lemeard is in a good position regardless. What if we lynch Lemeard instead of trying to find a wolf and then let the wolves fight it out? That way they need to get down to just two players left to win to achieve parity. Hypothetically we lynch Lemeard, Hax eats the other baddie and it's 1 vs 3 and if Hax is not a leader it's goodie victory. OTOH if we lynch Lemeard Hax, eats a goodie, then it's 2 wolves from different packs vs 2 goodies. Hm, no, this all seems to be equally bad as going for a wolf.

But since I believe in Santa Claus I might as well also believe in a Changeling who could win us the game by redirecting the hunt to the hunting wolf himself. Yes, that would be good. :) So Santa... erm mr Changeling, you should have a conditional protection order something like this "if Hax is lynched, protect trespoe/johho and redirect to walrus/WD, if Hax is not lynched protect walrus/WD and redirect to Hax".

Gah! I'm making to much of the information we have available, I think. I'm probably overlooking something basic and obvious.
 

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What about attempting to look at voting patterns for other wolves? I rarely survive this long in big WW games so I don't know how useful that is :eek:o

Edit: Maybe that's what you're actually doing when I read the thread a bit. :eek:o

Anyway

Vote White Daimon
 

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What about attempting to look at voting patterns for other wolves? I rarely survive this long in big WW games so I don't know how useful that is :eek:o

Edit: Maybe that's what you're actually doing when I read the thread a bit. :eek:o
Yes, since I think we are looking for a packmate of GeneralHannibal and Saintis/Velasco2 there aren't many votes that they made or were made against them that matters. I think yesterday was really the only day were we can find anything at all but feel free to look at the vote compilation and see if you find anything else.

But first we need to get rid of Hax.

But probably you don't care one way or the other since you will win as long as we don't lynch you and we can't really afford to waste a day on you. Lucky you. ;)
 

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But probably you don't care one way or the other since you will win as long as we don't lynch you and we can't really afford to waste a day on you. Lucky you. ;)
I must say it's a quite comfy seat :D

And I did after all give randakar the name of hebelecan as a cultist, so I've done some good :p
 

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I must say it's a quite comfy seat :D

And I did after all give randakar the name of hebelecan as a cultist, so I've done some good :p
Oh yes, if you hadn't told us you were a conman I'd have you down as the safest goodie since you not only gave us a cultist, you helped lynch a wolf yesterday too.
 

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unofficial vote count

Hax - 2 - johho888, walrus
White Daimon - 1 - Lemeard
walrus - 1 - trespoe

not voted - 2 - White Daimon, Hax
 

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Oh yes, if you hadn't told us you were a conman I'd have you down as the safest goodie since you not only gave us a cultist, you helped lynch a wolf yesterday too.
But then it'd also be more likely that I'd get hunted :eek:o
 

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So... I've been thinking.

We have either a non-euro wolf + Lemeard or a euro wolf + non euro wolf + Lemeard right?

Why aren't we killing Lemeard?
 

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So... I've been thinking.

We have either a non-euro wolf + Lemeard or a euro wolf + non euro wolf + Lemeard right?

Why aren't we killing Lemeard?
What do you gain from lynching me?

Also interesting that you used the word "killing".
 

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So... I've been thinking.

We have either a non-euro wolf + Lemeard or a euro wolf + non euro wolf + Lemeard right?

Why aren't we killing Lemeard?
I don't think that would help us (assuming you also are a goodie). Lets say we manage to lynch Lemeard. Then Hax will hunt someone.

If that someone is a baddie then we can lynch Hax tomorrow (unless he is the 4th in command) and win.

If that someone is a goodie then by tomorrow we have two wolves and 2- goodies. If we lynch Hax the other wolf will hunt someone (again assuming he isn't the 4th in command) and then gain parity.

If the 4th in command is a goodie then lynching Lemeard might not be such a bad idea...

If the no-kill was a forgotten hunt by the Euros or a GA save and not someone getting turned then we should aim for the potential non-Euros but I feel Hax must be a Eurowolf or why else was he an adressee of Euro's PM?

There might also be a changeling left since randakar talked about protectors in plural reporting in after he went public. If that guy exists and gets really lucky he might affect the odds but it's a longshot.
 

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Considering we have no chance to win even if we lynch a wolf maybe going for Lemeard is better since that at least gives us a tiny little chance if Hax hunts the "right" guy and isn't the 4th in command and there is no cultist-apprentice-turned-cultist. Yes, things are looking great...

unvote Hax, vote Lemeard