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Sorry johho, we could not have won this even if we hit a cursed. In that scenario, there would be 7 living players and only 3 of them baddies at the end of the night. Then it would've been over tomorrow for sure.

We needed Jester to win this, or ideally--Rysz.
Ah, yes 8-1=7, not 6. :eek:o
 

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waitaminute!

does the potion of strength happen after the wolf attack?

This also explains the witness. Rysz was hunting, but...

That is so screwed up.....

Exactly. This is a problem. That totally screwed me. Different types of deaths

MUST BE DIFFERENTIATED!
 

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Yes :mad:

Will you STOP discussing my death? I want to say something what I suspect, but I cannot as I am dead.... or end this now and let me speak :D

No.

It is kinda hilarious that you died hunting him, and turned him at the same time, thereby continuing the game.
 

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I didn't contact you because after NH sent his pm out, he got axed. Then Muttoneer got hunted. I suspected the JL had been compromised, just didn't think it was von Loch Ness because he knew the seer.
That was before vLN joined us but we knew who the goodie scanner were from the Sleuth result on the cosmic shift day. It was just so bloody many of them we couldn't eat them fast enough. :(
 

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Exactly. This is a problem. That totally screwed me. Different types of deaths

MUST BE DIFFERENTIATED!

I agree to a point. Consistency should be the key. If a GM has potions of strength being used a certain way, and wolf attacks another, mixing them up late in the game would be bad.

A Lite game was lost that way, I feel, because of consistency in the no hunt descriptions.
 

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No.

It is kinda hilarious that you died hunting him, and turned him at the same time, thereby continuing the game.
Yes, Jester and I reasoned about it, thought the game was up and decided to take the opportunity of Rysz's absense to change the hunt order and committ suicide by having Rysz attacking a hunter. Surprise, surprise...
 

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Rysz, why the hell did you hunt VLN? The reason I did not think of him being turned is that Ciry and the baddies knew he was a sensitive villager.

Why did you hunt him? You hunted a known villager when a Seer and multiple priests were active. And that villager was sensitive. That was just stupid. Or spiteful. Or both.
 

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Yes, Jester and I reasoned about it, thought the game was up and decided to take the opportunity of Rysz's absense to change the hunt order and committ suicide by having Rysz attacking a hunter. Surprise, surprise...

Oh. Okay. That explains it. Weird. JUst weird. :wacko:
 

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Rysz, why the hell did you hunt VLN? The reason I did not think of him being turned is that Ciry and the baddies knew he was a sensitive villager.

Why did you hunt him? You hunted a known villager when a Seer and multiple priests were active. And that villager was sensitive. That was just stupid. Or spiteful. Or both.

That is what I wanted to discuss. I have my thoughts about that, but I cannot discuss them now, and JOHHO, PLEASE do not say your view about this before I get a chance. I want to say certain things about that, before you do.
 

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That was before vLN joined us but we knew who the goodie scanner were from the Sleuth result on the cosmic shift day. It was just so bloody many of them we couldn't eat them fast enough. :(

But too many of us were confused.

If I had a result of cultist, that means the person wasn't a cultist. Could still be a wolf, sorcerer, villager, seer, guardian angel, whatever.
 

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I agree to a point. Consistency should be the key. If a GM has potions of strength being used a certain way, and wolf attacks another, mixing them up late in the game would be bad.
The GM was consistant! And if you'd asked him - like I did - about how he would present hunts, PoS, wolf attacks he would have told you.
 

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Yes, Jester and I reasoned about it, thought the game was up and decided to take the opportunity of Rysz's absense to change the hunt order and committ suicide by having Rysz attacking a hunter. Surprise, surprise...

Damn, I had a 50% chance of winning the game as a goodie that night, if I had survived Rysz's hunt. Or if Rysz had lived and turned me, we could've won with the baddies :D
 

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That is what I wanted to discuss. I have my thoughts about that, but I cannot discuss them now, and JOHHO, PLEASE do not say your view about this before I get a chance. I want to say certain things about that, before you do.
OK, I'll shut up then.
 

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The GM was consistant! And if you'd asked him - like I did - about how he would present hunts, PoS, wolf attacks he would have told you.

agreed. I wasn't really talking about this game, just in general (I guess it could be better posted in the general thread.) He was consistent, just didn't differentiate them enough.
 

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agreed. I wasn't really talking about this game, just in general (I guess it could be better posted in the general thread.) He was consistent, just didn't differentiate them enough.
Well, why should he? Some GMs differentiate between cultists of different packs in the update some don't. I don't see why nightly deaths would be so different.
 

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Sigh...

Ok, screw the ghost-role... (especially since I seem to remember johho already confessed to being the traitor cultist in the thread, although I can't find it so fast)

johho, I knew one of our cultists had to be the traitor, because it was in the rules, and I hadn't seen any dead traitor cultist. I already was slightly suspect it was you, but after I returned, and heard from I5 and you how the order was changed, it was clear to me you were the traitor.

NO baddie would take a chance of suicide by having a chance (if even the slightest) that the last wolf dies.

My absence gave you the best of reasons to end the game and get a goodie victory. Note that the hunt order I sent in would have seen AOK get hunted that night, if you hadn't changed it.
 

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Sigh...

Ok, screw the ghost-role... (especially since I seem to remember johho already confessed to being the traitor cultist in the thread, although I can't find it so fast)

johho, I knew one of our cultists had to be the traitor, because it was in the rules, and I hadn't seen any dead traitor cultist. I already was slightly suspect it was you, but after I returned, and heard from I5 and you how the order was changed, it was clear to me you were the traitor.

NO baddie would take a chance of suicide by having a chance (if even the slightest) that the last wolf dies.

My absence gave you the best of reasons to end the game and get a goodie victory. Note that the hunt order I sent in would have seen AOK get hunted that night, if you hadn't changed it.

May I laugh now?
 

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