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Although something obviously happened due to the cosmic shifts. I lost my foreign trait, for one... Mysterious...
Maybe you never really had it? Or you just think you lost it, but I5 doesn't enforce you to use it?
Maybe you never really had it? Or you just think you lost it, but I5 doesn't enforce you to use it?
Nah, I'm pretty sure the cosmic shifts were real. It's just odd...
Would you mind telling what PM's etc you got, and in what order in regards to your traits?
This feel pretty hopeless. Is there anything to go on? Unless the JL comes with something we are almost back to a first day random vote.
So should we pick up the fairly weak cases we had on Ciry/Sid or GeneralH or should we honor our memberships in COWZ and vote some inactive guy? Or should I just make a counter vote on the one who dared vote me? Tempting but I think not. Or maybe if we look at the bandwagon on Nautilu and Ciry/Sid we can find someone that was just a little bit too eager to jump them?
Bah, comercial ends, back to the telly.
So should we pick up the fairly weak cases we had on Ciry/Sid or GeneralH or should we honor our memberships in COWZ and vote some inactive guy? Or should I just make a counter vote on the one who dared vote me? Tempting but I think not. Or maybe if we look at the bandwagon on Nautilu and Ciry/Sid we can find someone that was just a little bit too eager to jump them?
Bah, comercial ends, back to the telly.
I told you there is no such thing as a cosmic shift
And I also told you that jonti and Rysz's vote orders were bullshit, but no--people don't like solid explanations... Perhaps we should all listen to the JL more carefully from now on. I'm just glad that someone didn't use their leader ability to save Euro.
You can start airing your suspicions now
And I also told you that jonti and Rysz's vote orders were bullshit, but no--people don't like solid explanations... Perhaps we should all listen to the JL more carefully from now on. I'm just glad that someone didn't use their leader ability to save Euro.
You can start airing your suspicions now
I told you there is no such thing as a cosmic shift
And I also told you that jonti and Rysz's vote orders were bullshit, but no--people don't like solid explanations... Perhaps we should all listen to the JL more carefully from now on. I'm just glad that someone didn't use their leader ability to save Euro.
You can start airing your suspicions now
I clearly got one. Unless the entire foreigner thing was bullshit, but still...
The details of that are pretty murky. There may have been a legitimate Cosmic Shift thing happening, but I'm almost sure that most of the orders that people received were bullshit. E.g. myself and jonti not being allowed to use vowels/consonants was definitely crap, and a few other important messages sent to people were also crap. This foreign thing is the only part that I'm not sure about, but it could very well have been crap. The only way to test it would be to do what I did--violate your trait
Who were originally foreigners were real. The update states by some dead people the foreign trait. Those couldn't have been added by the puppetmaster, as he has no "real power".
But Hannibal has been violating his trait without any consequences (it seems.) So that means either all speech impediments/foreigners/anything else like those I am forgetting were never really forced to stick to that role, OR there is a delay of some sort on cosmic shifts, and now that EURO is gone all those shifts of his will be undone resulting in who knows what for those violating their original traits tonight.
It just strikes me as odd that a GM would include a role that could do nothing but threaten, which is what the puppetmaster is it seems, and that the GM would threaten shifts if they don't really do anything.
It just strikes me as odd that a GM would include a role that could do nothing but threaten, which is what the puppetmaster is it seems, and that the GM would threaten shifts if they don't really do anything.
I can't answer those, but if you check on the first page both oky and EURO (the first one) is revealed as a foreigner.
Looking at Day 1 the ones that joined the vLN bandwagon when it just got started was Jaya, Edzako and jonti.You can start airing your suspicions now
Looking at Day 2 the ones that pushed the random Hax votes way ahead of the competition were Edzako, k-59 and AVN
Looking at Day 2 the ones that got Hax lynched over Jaya the cultist was Sid and Ciry (but we had agreed to lay of those, hadn't we?)
If I had more time I'd look at how the Nautilu bandwagon got started too but since there is one guy who appeared at the start of two bandwagons there is a clear pattern! I'm sure all statisticalistians or whatever they call themselves all over the world would agree with me!
And at least it's a fresh face (I hope he isn't subbed or already dead)
EDIT: checked first page and Edzako is still in the game.
vote Edzako
The details of that are pretty murky. There may have been a legitimate Cosmic Shift thing happening, but I'm almost sure that most of the orders that people received were bullshit. E.g. myself and jonti not being allowed to use vowels/consonants was definitely crap, and a few other important messages sent to people were also crap. This foreign thing is the only part that I'm not sure about, but it could very well have been crap. The only way to test it would be to do what I did--violate your trait
Unfortunately I cannot test my lack of a foreigner trait: I'd have to go back in time and violate it and see if there are consequences. But there are no time-travel abilities for this game - either the original foreigner trait was bullshit (which seems unlikely, but isn't impossible, considering Ironhead) OR there was a real cosmic shift. But that's all water under the bridge.
For now I'll Vote J. Pass, as I did before for the same reasons.
I'm going to VOTE EDZAKO because johho presents a good argument and because I think he and I will be the two vote leaders today.
VOTE Edzako
Johho's reasoning seems sound here.
Also what got Nautilu lynched was him claiming to have used a potion of strength to kill Jaya when the update gave no hints of him having been killed in that manner. The day after Jaya was hunted Nautilu appeared on the sleuth list and believed it showed who had acted during the night and that was when he claimed he used the pos to kill Jaya thus explaining his presence on the list.
That made me and others very suspicious(it seemed way to defensive for a villager). If you want to pinpoint someone for starting a bandwagon on Nautilu though it would have to be me.
Johho's reasoning seems sound here.
Also what got Nautilu lynched was him claiming to have used a potion of strength to kill Jaya when the update gave no hints of him having been killed in that manner. The day after Jaya was hunted Nautilu appeared on the sleuth list and believed it showed who had acted during the night and that was when he claimed he used the pos to kill Jaya thus explaining his presence on the list.
That made me and others very suspicious(it seemed way to defensive for a villager). If you want to pinpoint someone for starting a bandwagon on Nautilu though it would have to be me.
Great analysis....
Vote Xenomorph might reconsider but we need more than one candidate for today and the analysis on Edzako is also very solid!
Sorry guys, but after wading through this the total of votes received does not reveal much. Most of the players remaining have little in regards to votes recieved, as most of our lynches have been bandwagons or close votes where the person spared was later offed anyway.
Thus, we need to get multiple parties involved unless the JL has something. Edzako and Xeno are fine. Jpas is fine.
johho888 is pretty much correct. There is little to go on. I will throw another name out there. AVN is my best guess upon looking at all this.
VOTE AVN
No more runaway bandwagons. If we are to have a random lynch, then let it be one with many votes and many parties and thus interests involved. That will give us a base of information upon which to draw later.
Thus, we need to get multiple parties involved unless the JL has something. Edzako and Xeno are fine. Jpas is fine.
johho888 is pretty much correct. There is little to go on. I will throw another name out there. AVN is my best guess upon looking at all this.
VOTE AVN
No more runaway bandwagons. If we are to have a random lynch, then let it be one with many votes and many parties and thus interests involved. That will give us a base of information upon which to draw later.