Werewolf LXXIII: Coruscant Nights

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I will support johho888:

Vote Paendrag.

He does have the perfect cover, but I do believe his messy diaper has given him away.

@vLN: You give as good as you get. I tip the hat and offer truce.

@Okyriosy: I apologize, sir. I was out of line. Dead on, but out of line.

 

[johho888]

What is all this talking about endgames with only baddies left in it in the General Werewolf thread and the Social group?
Should I be even more paranoid?
Was the setup 5+2 so there is 2(3) ww + 2 cultists + 1 sorc left leaving me with only 1(2) fellow goodie(s)?

Damn you, EURO, for making me doubt everything again!

@GM: Do you state the original role of any turned werewolf we kill?
For example if the_hdk really was a GA originally would you have said "the_hdk the GA turned Imperial werewolf" in the update or would you just say "the_hdk the turned Imperial werewolf" regardless of original role?

 

[sbr]

Hopefully this isn't too much of a worthless BS vote before I disappear.

Unvote sbr
Vote Paendrag

 

[okyriosy]

*sigh*

Unvote antracer
Vote Paendrag

 

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*sigh*

Unvote antracer
Vote Paendrag

Oh Thank you thank you thank you...!

Don't be hatin'...

I got a vacation day...!

Should have seen the bosses face when I told him I had to be home to try and catch a werewolf... :rofl:

 

[johho888]

Should have seen the bosses face when I told him I had to be home to try and catch a werewolf... :rofl:

 

[Kriszo]

What is all this talking about endgames with only baddies left in it in the General Werewolf thread and the Social group?
Should I be even more paranoid?
Was the setup 5+2 so there is 2(3) ww + 2 cultists + 1 sorc left leaving me with only 1(2) fellow goodie(s)?

Damn you, EURO, for making me doubt everything again!

@GM: Do you state the original role of any turned werewolf we kill?
For example if the_hdk really was a GA originally would you have said "the_hdk the GA turned Imperial werewolf" in the update or would you just say "the_hdk the turned Imperial werewolf" regardless of original role?

The second one. If you look at the update or the first page, it reads "the_hdk the turned Imperial Werewolf has been hunted"

 

[Kriszo]

Paendrag (2) [5] - joebthegreat, johho888, antracer, sbr, okyriosy (2)

Not voted [3] - Paendrag (2), von Loch Ness, Kathnar

 

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vote Paendrag

I don't have any reason to be against lynching Paendrag, especially since he was also on Split's list, IIRC. I'm just somewhat worried that whoever is PMing johho might be a baddie. If the baddies can win today by fooling one villager into believing them, then I can see why they would PM johho. I've done this a couple of times in Lite games before.
It's also worrying that everyone jumped on the bandwagon. If the baddies are close to winning and we're voting for one of them, I'd think that they would at least try to put up a second candidate. Baddies don't usually risk exposing themselves this way, but it would make sense today because if they succeeded, they might win. I hope they just don't have the numbers right now so they've decided to sacrifice Paendrag.

 

[Paendrag]

well..

Vote VLN

 

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I generally don't think arguments like this should be used in a Werewolf game, because they are a bit outside the spirit of the game, but here's a bit of trivia:

Kriszo's page has recently been visited by antracer & sbr
Paendrag's page has been visited by sbr & kriszo
antracer's page has been visited by paendrag & sbr
johho's page has been visited by kriszo & sbr
vLN's page has been visited by sbr
okyriosy's page has been visited by sbr
joeb's page has been visited by Kriszo
kathnar's page has been visited by sbr

For those of you who aren't familiar with this reasoning, the idea is that people with special roles and the GM are sometimes careless, and if they want to send a PM to someone they go to their page first and then select the option to send a PM. Or they sometimes just visit packmates or the GM accidentally. I've noticed that The Split and sbr check people's profiles in general, and you can see that sbr's name is on every player's page, except his own

Sadly, I don't think we can conclude anything from the above. There are no matches (i.e. when player A visits player B and vice varsa), which would usually be ground for suspicion. The only other note of interest is who visited the GM (antracer, sbr) and who was visited by him (paendrag, johho & joeb)...

 

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A bit of extra trivia:

People who didn't vote for Jopi (sorceror) on day 12:
kathnar, okiryosy, sbr, antracer

People who voted for TheSplit (JL guy) on day 13:
okiryosi, johho, sbr
Note: even HJ Tulp voted for Split… so perhaps the JL was trying to put him in the lead and use Tulp's ability…

People who didn't vote for Raczynski (mercenary) on day 15:
okyriosy, joeb, kathnar (all voted for snoop), sbr, antracer (both throw-away votes), Paendrag (non-vote)

People who voted for Llywelyn (imperial) on Day 7:
sbr, johho, kathnar, okyriosy
Note: Paendrag voted for the second candidate on that day;

Okyriosy's vote for Llywelyn was pretty decisive on day 7, evidence against him being an imperial.

 

[marty99]

Woohoo! officially the longest thread in the forum,(I don't think anyone else has already mentioned it) if the game were to last another 1879 days then we would beat the Strange Screenshots thread, *looks around encouragingly* come on people we can do it!

And if Polar Mongoose is watching this, loving the avatar

 

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I had a follow up question to a rule clarification... Being new Kriszo is the only one I can address these questions to without effecting the game out come, and where I can get answer that won't effect the game outcome.

 

[johho888]

People who didn't vote for Raczynski (mercenary) on day 15:
okyriosy, joeb, kathnar (all voted for snoop), sbr, antracer (both throw-away votes), Paendrag (non-vote)

!!! I've been doing all my reasoning based on Kathnar voting Raczynski this day which would clear him from both packs! Are my notes wrong?

 

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!!! I've been doing all my reasoning based on Kathnar voting Raczynski this day which would clear him from both packs! Are my notes wrong?

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10179316&postcount=1538

snoopdogg (1) [4] - okyriosy (2), joebthegreat, Kathnar, Raczynski (1)

Raczynski (1) [4] - johho888, snoopdogg (1), von Loch Ness, HJ Tulp (1)

Paendrag (1) [1] - sbr

Kathnar [1] - antracer

Not voted [1] - Paendrag (1)

Seems like it.

 

[johho888]

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10179316&postcount=1538

Seems like it.

Hell and damnation.

 

[Kriszo]

Paendrag (2) [6] - joebthegreat, johho888, antracer, sbr, okyriosy (2), von Loch Ness

von Loch Ness [1] - Paendrag (2)

Not voted [1] - Kathnar

Also, vLN, what antracer says is true. Others have contacted me about rules too. Besides, even if this was not true, I would clear everybody of this "who visited GM's page" thingy, because I think this method shouldn't be used, not to mention it can be totally inaccurate. As a player, I often check the GM's page to see if he is online yet.

 

[johho888]

vote Paendrag

I don't have any reason to be against lynching Paendrag, especially since he was also on Split's list, IIRC. I'm just somewhat worried that whoever is PMing johho might be a baddie. If the baddies can win today by fooling one villager into believing them, then I can see why they would PM johho. I've done this a couple of times in Lite games before.
It's also worrying that everyone jumped on the bandwagon. If the baddies are close to winning and we're voting for one of them, I'd think that they would at least try to put up a second candidate. Baddies don't usually risk exposing themselves this way, but it would make sense today because if they succeeded, they might win. I hope they just don't have the numbers right now so they've decided to sacrifice Paendrag.

Yes, I am a bit scared about how little opposition we got.

I've been in PM contact with antracer (which I guess most of you have), oky (who you should all hear more about shortly) and marty (way back). I sent one PM to Tulp/walrus but never got an answer from either.

 

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Also, vLN, what antracer says is true. Others have contacted me about rules too. Besides, even if this was not true, I would clear everybody of this "who visited GM's page" thingy, because I think this method shouldn't be used, not to mention it can be totally inaccurate. As a player, I often check the GM's page to see if he is online yet.

I don't need to justify my use of this method. If someone thinks it's inaccurate, they're free to disregard it. I can still post the results though.