Werewolf Lite CXLVI: The 2009 Brazilian Grand Prix

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Here comes the promised analysis

Boring Commentator whose name I cant remember: time is running out in Quali 2. Its over half way to the deadline and no-one has even got a first vote in. Why do you think this is, David?
Eddie Jordan: (jumps in front of camera and waves arms around) They are all a bunch of mind-controlled cowards who are scared to show themselves. I wouldn't have had any of them on my team.
Boring Commentator whose name I cant remember: Quite so Eddie and perhaps we should get the opinion of one of our other commenators. Martin?
Martin Brundle: As we saw in Quali 1, all the fastest votes came at the end of the session. The thread clearly isn't properly rubbered in yet and everyone is hoping to get the advantage of following someone else and making use of their own arguments against them.
(sounds of running feet and then a somewhat breathless squeaky Irish voice)
Thats because they are all a bunch of mind-controlled cowards who are scared to show themselves. I wouldn't have had any of them on my team.
Boring Commentator whose name I cant remember: and now over to David who is in the Ferrari garage.
(TC screen shows David Coulthard in the Ferrari garage)
DC I should explain to viewers that for security reasons, my actual location is being kept secret. My image has been electronically added to a shot of the Ferrari garage. However, Eddie Jordan will be in the Ferrari garage shortly and I am sure we will hear from him later.

As I read the current situation the picture looks bad for the FIA. The only thing that is readily apparent from the voting analysis is that if joebthegreat was a wolf, Lord Strange was begging to be hunted. There are lots of jester-joeb-strange links. This means that either his other scan (besides jester and joeb) is a wolf and he was desperate to get one outed, in which case another announcement from the FIA outing that wolf can be expected, or he was suicidally foolish.

This means it is important to get some information from today's voting analysis, we can't risk a tie of two villagers because that would give the wolves parity tonight, but we need a close vote to get the best information. The best tactic I think is to run up two or three drivers and see who blinks, but eventually for jester to pick one and everyone make sure that driver is lynched.

The only trouble with this is if jester is actually a wolf that Lord Strange gave himself away to. However, I think jester is probably JL and knows that one other driver is either JL or a wolf, and so the best chance of lynching a wolf is to vote the way jester asks. Someone else should know if jester was the wolf that betrayed the Seer but unless they come forward we should follow jester's lead and eventually lynch whoever he says today.

If he wants different drivers to put in a lap time, send them out. Otherwise I think the best thing to do is pick a couple that are associated with joeb and run them up. Voted with joeb: slinky (2), okyriosy (1) and various dead people. voted for lynching joeb: jester (1), Euro (1) and dead people. joeb voted for: jester and dead people.

I think Slinky should be run up, and seeing as he is pointing at marty99, that makes a good alternative vote. However, once jester posts we should do what he asks.

vote Slinky

and now over to Eddie Jordan who has been talking to a dead microphone in the Ferrari garage for the last 30 minutes but still has some more to say.
...
 

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Well lets see….. there are definitely some viable candidates.

I am very worried that a bunch of people are reluctant to post, and are most likely waiting for a bandwagon opportunity.

In regards to the best suspects I think we should focus first on Okyrioys (why did his case went quiet all of a sudden?) and people who are voting but not posting much…. Slinky and DQ (he has two posts!!!!) I willl

Vote Okyriosy

for now but will support people who want to run up the other two guys if need be….
 

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Well lets see….. there are definitely some viable candidates.

I am very worried that a bunch of people are reluctant to post, and are most likely waiting for a bandwagon opportunity.



In regards to the best suspects I think we should focus first on Okyrioys (why did his case went quiet all of a sudden?) and people who are voting but not posting much…. Slinky and DQ (he has two posts!!!!) I willl

Vote Okyriosy

for now but will support people who want to run up the other two guys if need be….

rant begins here

I am quiet because:

a) I am never really hyperactive.
b) I have nothing really to say.
c) I have a real life biochemistry test.

I know that I am suspicious, but I can't do much...
And may I ask why?
Because I listened to EUROO7 two days ago, as I thought he made some sense?
Is this a good enough reason?

rant over.
 

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Joebthegreat seemed to have been defending okyriosy, but I think it is a bit obvious. It couldn´t hurt to check him out though.

I am also suspicious of marty99. He got two votes day one. Nothing really suspicious, but it seemed like joebthegreat wanted to start a bandwagon on Lord Strange or at least direct the attention to him and of of marty99.

Vote marty99
Wait, what, if he almost got me lynched how does that incriminate me, if anything, I should think that would clear me:rolleyes:

Oh, and btw, both the reasons for the two votes on me were because I was the tenth player and it was the tenth:eek:

However, I wont sink to your level, here is my vote analysis:

Day one voting
OrangeYoshi (3) - Jerard, EUROO7, Lord Strange
Lord Strange (2) - Jamie550, joebthegreat
marty99 (2) - okyriosy, THE_SPLIT
EUROO7 (1) - Capibara
Jerard (1) - Nautiliu
joebthegreat (1) - Jester180
Jester180 (1) - OrangeYoshi
Hax (1) - the_hdk
The_Split (1) - Slinky
hebelecan (1) - hax
the_hdk (1) - punkbob

Since we started with a day, the seer couldn't possibly have any scans so anybody who appeared to try and save him isn't necessarily cleared, though its a good starting point

The only known wolf is joeb, jester voted for him whenever it was relatively close and long before the deadline but remember one minute before he voted the GM moved the deadline forward, he could just have thought that a throwaway would be the safe thing to do if there wasn't any hope of lynching joeb, so therefore he isn't really cleared,

I'm not sure about his outing of joeb either, he said he was ''advised'' possibly a scanned goodie told him about this?, and Jester outing him even though he was his packmate, as he would have no choice but to do so
After all, the JL never scanned him, and he was only told of the seers identity after he got joeb lynched
LS died the same day:eek: (okay, update, pedants)

Vote Jester 180
vote Marty
I think him and okyriosy should be run up as he shows no willingness to find any goodies, time to attack people who call him inactive, but not enough for a seconds rational thought, instead just voting for someone who accused him, even if hes a clear villager, I said this before, the wolves would leave me alone after I was proven good, but later on try to get me when everybody forgets about it
Plus hes been acting wolfish the whole game

Just to clarify, I am not pushing for a TIE here, but we need more than one candidate
 

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I do not know ,marty, if lynching the guy who brought us a wolf would be such a hot idea at this point.... Have you ever seen such a person survive to the end of the game?
He was told to out him by the JL, he didn't have any choice, if he didn't do it then he would be lynched right after joeb, it wasn't as if he could have saved him, his only hope was to save his own skin and hunt LS the next day
 

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He was told to out him by the JL, he didn't have any choice, if he didn't do it then he would be lynched right after joeb, it wasn't as if he could have saved him, his only hope was to save his own skin and hunt LS the next day

Ahha... I pulled a similar thing a few games ago! I, as a villager, was told to out a wolf and tried to have another wolf do the outing, but CC'ed a random person (who tunred out to be the seer by sheer chance) to give weight to my "JL".... was not pretty.....

Maybe we should wait for Jester to explain thought... I thought he mentioned he was in JL or am I mistaken?
 

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He was in the JL, after a fashion, I was just trying to pressurise him into saying something suspicious in his defence, and waiting to see peoples reaction to it, but so far nobody has replied except you, and you didn't strike me as particularly wolfish there so I don't think we have any leads from it

Unvote Jester Vote Slinky for voting me, and using the fact that a wolf tried to lynch me as bogus evidence, if he can explain this I will switch again, but it does strike me as suspicious
 

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Ok I've spoken with the JL and we think we should run up okyriosy and THE_SPLIT today. As okyriosy has one vote already.

Vote THE_SPLIT

Based on what? Would you also mind telling us if you are in contact with JL or were scanned? Because right now it looks to me like either you or marty would be two good candidates... as one of you is clearly trying to go for the throat!

Edit: Never Mind !
 

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Based on what? Would you also mind telling us if you are in contact with JL or were scanned? Because right now it looks to me like either you or marty would be two good candidates... as one of you is clearly trying to go for the throat!

Edit: Never Mind !
I don't understand this, please explain.
 

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The way I understand it first marty goes for Jester, then he claims he is in JL with him :confused:
Nope, your wrong there, I claimed jester was in the JL with me before I accused him, I merely voiced my suspicion that the JL had been infiltrated what with the seer getting hunted and all that
 

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Nope, your wrong there, I claimed jester was in the JL with me before I accused him, I merely voiced my suspicion that the JL had been infiltrated what with the seer getting hunted and all that

I am officaly giving up trying to follow you Marty99, either my lack of sleep is getting to me or you are tying to hard to confuse everyone!
 

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Very well. Vote THE_Split

Because the JL said so. And because I can't understand what he's saying.
 

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Plus switching votes around quickly is a good way to try and find wolves, a fixed candidature, even if not a bandwagon and there is more than one candidate, is easy to hide in, but with different messages being given out then its hard for wolves to follow goodies votes, thus harder for them to disguise themselves