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I have the same reasons that others proposed first: First, you vote for oy, claiming to want to break the tie; then when someone else votes oy, you quickly change your vote back to jonti, therefore bringing the tie closer again. Doesn't make sense, therefore smells of WOLF.
You're missing the crucial point, I did not see Snoops vote

There is no physical way I could have seen it and reacted to it deliberately that fast, therefore the case against me collapses



And you have subtly rewrote what happened yesterday

I said that I did not want either Walrus or OY lynched given their propensity for dying early

However, soon after, with precious little time to go until the deadline, a TIE was created between those two
Yes, I stil did not want to kill either of them but it looked at the time that at least one of them would have to die I switched to OY to prevent the tie, this was only about 5 minutes before the deadline

A few minutes later, when the chance came to save OrangeYoshi and still prevent a TIE, of course I took it, not wanting to lynch Walrus either, I had only two possible options, jonti or snoop and I chose jonti

So, now that you have yesterdays events summarised completely and are in full possession of the facts, as well as logically sound (from a villager's POV) reasons for my actions, tell me what is wolfish about my actions yesterday, with reference to the whole thing, not just individual things that, taken out of context, would look wolfish
 

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marty, you don't expect us to read all that, do you?
 

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marty, you don't expect us to read all that, do you?
No, I'd be better off saying ''Dude, I totally ain't a wolf'', usually the village intelligently analyses that that statement must mean the player is not a wolf, whereas if you have to resort to a logical argument, then you must be a desperate wolf

Hopefully one or two active players will read it, see the obvious and convince the rest of the village
 

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I see, now that I have clarified what actually happened, no one has renewed the case against me

Unfortunately no one has took their vote off either, so today will be a complete waste for the village

I have said everything, I have shown how the evidence against me is bogus, and I have also shown why I'm slightly less likely to be a wolf than other people, nothing more I can say can show my innocence further, so notwithstanding a sudden enlightenment of the villagers, it looks like i will die, so I bid you adieu
 

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Well, when I get a votecount, I will change my vote.
 

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you're missing the crucial point, i did not see snoops vote

there is no physical way i could have seen it and reacted to it deliberately that fast, therefore the case against me collapses



and you have subtly rewrote what happened yesterday

i said that i did not want either walrus or oy lynched given their propensity for dying early

however, soon after, with precious little time to go until the deadline, a tie was created between those two
yes, i stil did not want to kill either of them but it looked at the time that at least one of them would have to die i switched to oy to prevent the tie, this was only about 5 minutes before the deadline

a few minutes later, when the chance came to save orangeyoshi and still prevent a tie, of course i took it, not wanting to lynch walrus either, i had only two possible options, jonti or snoop and i chose jonti

so, now that you have yesterdays events summarised completely and are in full possession of the facts, as well as logically sound (from a villager's pov) reasons for my actions, tell me what is wolfish about my actions yesterday, with reference to the whole thing, not just individual things that, taken out of context, would look wolfish
unless you planned it all in advance you wolfish bastard!!
 

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You're missing the crucial point, I did not see Snoops vote

There is no physical way I could have seen it and reacted to it deliberately that fast, therefore the case against me collapses



And you have subtly rewrote what happened yesterday

I said that I did not want either Walrus or OY lynched given their propensity for dying early

However, soon after, with precious little time to go until the deadline, a TIE was created between those two
Yes, I stil did not want to kill either of them but it looked at the time that at least one of them would have to die I switched to OY to prevent the tie, this was only about 5 minutes before the deadline

A few minutes later, when the chance came to save OrangeYoshi and still prevent a TIE, of course I took it, not wanting to lynch Walrus either, I had only two possible options, jonti or snoop and I chose jonti

So, now that you have yesterdays events summarised completely and are in full possession of the facts, as well as logically sound (from a villager's POV) reasons for my actions, tell me what is wolfish about my actions yesterday, with reference to the whole thing, not just individual things that, taken out of context, would look wolfish

tl;dr

Now then EURO.
I want a votecount. NAO.
 

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It takes me hours to load a page.

I think marty or hdk should make us a votecount.

Are you on dial up or something?
 

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Vote Count
marty: 6
slinky (188), raczynski (189),
walrus (jonti 176 -> marty 190)
jonti (walrus 182 -> marty 191)
tornadoli (196)
euro (207)

euro: 2
JDMS (177), trespoe (186)

walrus: 2
cirya (183)
hax (194)

Torn: 1
marty (198)

not voted: yakman, rysz

normally I do not do vote counts between the day but I have free time now.
it's your work people!
 

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Unvote marty
Vote walrus


EDIT: THANK YOU HDK
 

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vote walrus
 

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I have no idea. But it's cold. And old. And so very full of mold.

You are Dr Seuss and i claim my £5

Also unvote Marty Vote Walrus
 

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Vote jonti-h

Why do you keep switching between those two? Two that also oppose each other.
 

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You're missing the crucial point, I did not see Snoops vote

There is no physical way I could have seen it and reacted to it deliberately that fast, therefore the case against me collapses



And you have subtly rewrote what happened yesterday

I said that I did not want either Walrus or OY lynched given their propensity for dying early

However, soon after, with precious little time to go until the deadline, a TIE was created between those two
Yes, I stil did not want to kill either of them but it looked at the time that at least one of them would have to die I switched to OY to prevent the tie, this was only about 5 minutes before the deadline

A few minutes later, when the chance came to save OrangeYoshi and still prevent a TIE, of course I took it, not wanting to lynch Walrus either, I had only two possible options, jonti or snoop and I chose jonti

So, now that you have yesterdays events summarised completely and are in full possession of the facts, as well as logically sound (from a villager's POV) reasons for my actions, tell me what is wolfish about my actions yesterday, with reference to the whole thing, not just individual things that, taken out of context, would look wolfish

Even if you didn't see the vote, what exactly is the point of first unvoting jonti, voting oy; then a minute later, unvoting oy and voting jonti? You couldn't have made any useful analysis in that minute, and changing your mind based on that; so I think you are not telling the truth and DID see snoop's vote and that is the reason you changed that vote.