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So THE_SPLIT knew EUROO7 was a wolf and didn't vote for him, and the sole member of the JL also didn't vote for him, and he was decisively lynched anyways.
I'd gladly lynch vLN to eliminate the baddie option of pretending to be the JL later in the game.
But I also like the idea of going after marty99.
EDIT: I don't mind going after tamius23 either.
I can't unvote randakar until he says something though (because pizza). At that point I'll decide who to go after.
I'd gladly lynch vLN to eliminate the baddie option of pretending to be the JL later in the game.
But I also like the idea of going after marty99.
EDIT: I don't mind going after tamius23 either.
I can't unvote randakar until he says something though (because pizza). At that point I'll decide who to go after.
Malurous vote wasn't irreversible, (2 vote difference, IIRC), and if I was a wolf, I would attempt to push EURO ahead in order to trigger a reaction from the village (like the "let's keep things close" that is so trendy these days).
Edit : More importantly, lynching Malurous will make it possible to develop some conclusions about other people.
If you're not the sole surviving JL member, whoever is had better make a counter claim soon. And if a counter claim is made, whether genuinely or by wolves, it just gives us a narrowed list of suspects with guaranteed baddies amongst them. Given we still have three lives left, now was the right time to come forward, even if it means you'll probably be eaten.
With an hour to deadline and no AOK I don't really think it would have changed without someone making an obvious, out of character move. Malurous could have just as easily voted one of the other candidates, and as long as he provided a reasonable justification he could have got away with it even if EURO was lynched anyway - and apparently the JL had him marked. Your vote, on the other hand, is almost at the point where it's so meaningless that you could start arguing it was too obvious a wolf move.
Who would killing Malurous clear with two days voting to go on? He's one of our more likely villagers, and with no seer we need them. No point doing the wolves' work for them.
Oh, and
Unvote von Loch Ness
Vote reis91
Not that reis should take it as locked in, I'll have a chance to change tomorrow morning. But that's only if I'm satisfied, or have someone better to go after.
Unvote von Loch Ness
Vote reis91
Not that reis should take it as locked in, I'll have a chance to change tomorrow morning. But that's only if I'm satisfied, or have someone better to go after.
Well, there is you, but I don't think it is in your best interest to go after yourself.
And I don't think it is too far fetched for the wolves, seeing EURO getting votes out of nowhere, assume that he was scanned, and move to obtain credibility. Under this angle, Mal and Rendap (which brings another angle, what if there were two wolves being ran up?) are more suspicious than me and vLN.
unvote Malurous
vote Rendap
Have you ever been in a JL with THE_SPLIT as seer? That's not his style. He's not that stupid.
Anyway, vLN has claimed to be JL and that THE_SPLIT scanned EUROO7, so until there is evidence to the contrary then your reasoning to vote me is invalid. If you want to still lynch me for missing a vote, I'll accept that, but I'd at least like you to admit the above logic is poor.
Going to go through the thread now. Firstly I'd like to remind everyone that the last time I can remember EURO being a wolf, he deliberately got himself lynched to give his packmates credibility by voting him en masse. That may well be the case now.
Vote AVN
This is NOT a revenge vote.
As a villager, AVN is a terrific player when it comes to finding wolves. From what I can remember, as a wolf he is nowhere near as good and is quite easy to identify as a wolf. I still haven't got my head around the cases against the other candidates, but I'd like to see AVN up there too. He is ignoring all the voting evidence and has voted the same player two days in a row on extremely poor logic. He may be less involved in this game due to his role in the Big, but his behaviour is clearly off.
This is NOT a revenge vote.
As a villager, AVN is a terrific player when it comes to finding wolves. From what I can remember, as a wolf he is nowhere near as good and is quite easy to identify as a wolf. I still haven't got my head around the cases against the other candidates, but I'd like to see AVN up there too. He is ignoring all the voting evidence and has voted the same player two days in a row on extremely poor logic. He may be less involved in this game due to his role in the Big, but his behaviour is clearly off.
"It seems a doppelganger has been caught and put to the sword. Good. Such a fate is no less than the fiend deserved."
But would you count on that happening in such a passive game? In a more active game I probably would have made a tie with someone at that point, but it felt too dangerous here. And well, if I was a wolf then I don't see any reason for needlessly weakening the pack at that point. Needlessly as EURO wasn't in any way particularly suspicious so if he got through the day he would have probably been fine.
Huh? So when a seer scans a wolf, he and his only scanned villager immediately start running the wolf up? Yeah that's probably what wolves would assume, seeing that it's totally a really common way for a JL to act. :blink:
Besides, if the wolves actually thought so because of some mysterious reason, wouldn't they have hunted one of the EURO-voters?
Care to share it/them in the thread?
Made a votecount:
3 - tami (King, Rendap, vLN)
1 - randy (joeb)
1 - marty (AVN)
1 - reis (Kiwi)
1 - Rendap (reis)
1 - AVN (marty)
nv: randy, jL, Mal, tami
Must prepare dinner before trying to draw further conclusions, but a bunch of random thoughts (feel free to debate):
I had something else I wanted to add there but I forgot. Maybe it'll come back to me.
But would you count on that happening in such a passive game? In a more active game I probably would have made a tie with someone at that point, but it felt too dangerous here. And well, if I was a wolf then I don't see any reason for needlessly weakening the pack at that point. Needlessly as EURO wasn't in any way particularly suspicious so if he got through the day he would have probably been fine.
Huh? So when a seer scans a wolf, he and his only scanned villager immediately start running the wolf up? Yeah that's probably what wolves would assume, seeing that it's totally a really common way for a JL to act. :blink:
Besides, if the wolves actually thought so because of some mysterious reason, wouldn't they have hunted one of the EURO-voters?
Care to share it/them in the thread?
Made a votecount:
3 - tami (King, Rendap, vLN)
1 - randy (joeb)
1 - marty (AVN)
1 - reis (Kiwi)
1 - Rendap (reis)
1 - AVN (marty)
nv: randy, jL, Mal, tami
Must prepare dinner before trying to draw further conclusions, but a bunch of random thoughts (feel free to debate):
- Re: tamius, it should also be noted that his vote on day one was a throwaway. So were a lot of others, but seeing that people are focusing on him I figured it should be mentioned.
- While vLN's vote is suspicious and his story a bit convenient and something that can't really be confirmed, it being the truth seems somewhat likely. Unless Bagricula happened to be the first scan or two wolves were scanned, a "rival" should emerge if he isn't legit. As a wolf-vLN can't possibly know the scans, he'd be taking a huge risk.
- Rendap had to make a choice between marty and EURO in his successful attempt to save himself. Unless you believe reis' theories, wolf-Rendap would pretty much mean wolf-marty and it's a bit unlikely that the wolves would fail hard enough that three of them end up as the front runners. Just for clarity's sake, this of course says absolutely nothing about marty.
- EURO's "Inbox cleared, fellow packmates." is quite hilarious now.
I had something else I wanted to add there but I forgot. Maybe it'll come back to me.
Also,
Vote reis
Partially to avoid a bandwagon. And because of far-fetched theories and limited answers when Kiwi questioned him. In addition to what I just posted, what conclusions can you draw upon my death? And why no answer initially to such a direct question?
Switching to tamius (or a better target that someone comes up with) is by no means out of the question, but for now I'm interested in what reis has to say.
Vote reis
Partially to avoid a bandwagon. And because of far-fetched theories and limited answers when Kiwi questioned him. In addition to what I just posted, what conclusions can you draw upon my death? And why no answer initially to such a direct question?
Switching to tamius (or a better target that someone comes up with) is by no means out of the question, but for now I'm interested in what reis has to say.
Has tamius ever used random.org before on a day other than day 1? This is fairly important; if he has, then his excuse may well have been true and his voting rendap mere coincidence. If not, however, then this would be reasonably strong evidence of him trying to save EURO.
That said, I'm now fairly convinced EUROO7 willingly sacrificed himself. At the very least, he didn't fight his death at all. Notice his vote on joeb near the end of the day, joeb only had one vote before then. I'm guessing EURO wanted to get himself lynched then it make it look like he was protecting me and rendap by not voting us. This is why I don't have Malurous as cleared. I sense alibi voting.
I need more information about these new players: Are Malurous and Rendap likely to vote packmates? Does Malurous try to analyse like this when he's a wolf? Does Vainglory approve of joebthegreat and his polygamous ways?
Satan, your Kingdom must come down
Satan, your Kingdom must come down
I heard the voice of Jesus say:
Satan, your Kingdom must come down
I'm gonna pray 'till they tear your Kingdom down...
Pray 'till they tear your Kingdom down!
I heard the voice of Jesus cry:
Satan, your Kingdom must come down.
Satan, your Kingdom must come down
I heard the voice of Jesus say:
Satan, your Kingdom must come down
I'm gonna pray 'till they tear your Kingdom down...
Pray 'till they tear your Kingdom down!
I heard the voice of Jesus cry:
Satan, your Kingdom must come down.
For the record: I want to see AVN lynched. I'm now about 60% sure he's a wolf. By no means certain, but way more confident about him than anyone else. I realise that if he isn't a wolf I'll get lynched, and if he is then I'm certain to get hunted. I shouldn't have gone all out on this. But there it is. I will not stop trying to lynch AVN barring something game-changing.
However, if we are going to lynch someone else, I think we should tie reis and tamius. Lynching one will not prove the innocence of the other, and vice versa, and it seems inevitable if they survive today they'll be run up tomorrow, and the day after that.
Currently it is a tie, only j-L and randakar are yet to vote. If anyone's against the tie (for other reasons than 'zomg tiez are teh ev0l!') then say your piece.
However, if we are going to lynch someone else, I think we should tie reis and tamius. Lynching one will not prove the innocence of the other, and vice versa, and it seems inevitable if they survive today they'll be run up tomorrow, and the day after that.
Currently it is a tie, only j-L and randakar are yet to vote. If anyone's against the tie (for other reasons than 'zomg tiez are teh ev0l!') then say your piece.
Feeling confident, eh? Perhaps something to do with an apathetic village and a dead seer, I reckon...
You have carefully dodged the point, Mal. If rendap or marty were wolves, my vote is way more legit than yours. Instead, you're trying to play the village against me and tamius, hoping that the village ties two likely villagers (yes, I don't think tamius is that stupid to pull something he isn't likely at all going to get away with). And, what a coincidence, you do it right after the Seer died, so that you or your cronies cannot be scanned for acting like this.
unvote Rendap
vote Malurous the overconfident wolf
You have carefully dodged the point, Mal. If rendap or marty were wolves, my vote is way more legit than yours. Instead, you're trying to play the village against me and tamius, hoping that the village ties two likely villagers (yes, I don't think tamius is that stupid to pull something he isn't likely at all going to get away with). And, what a coincidence, you do it right after the Seer died, so that you or your cronies cannot be scanned for acting like this.
unvote Rendap
vote Malurous the overconfident wolf
Where does this come from? I'm assuming this is directed at me since the rest of the post clearly is. EDIT: It clearly is considering the "overconfident wolf" part. So what do you mean?
How so?
What is the "it" that I'm doing? Tamius was up with three votes with no-one else with more than one. I'm not going to place a vote on him in that situation with plenty of time left, and I'm not the first or the only one to think of you as a potential candidate here.
I find it funny that instead of answering any questions posed to you, you just keep switching your target whenever someone questions you.
I find this line pretty weird. It's like you're stating "I know you're a villager, but we can confirm it publicly by lynching you." First of all, how would you know I'm a villager?
And why wouldn't you just let the wolves hunt me?
I'm just going to say I won't be around at the deadline - it's 1am in my timezone, argh.