Werewolf Lite CCXIV - The Sheep Herd

[Athalcor]

It was a beautiful day. All the sheep were out eating grass except for one. The sheep, disturbed by the disappearance of their shepherd, accused it of being a wolf. The victim stated that it was not a wolf, it just disliked eating grass - 'We are killing the grass's soul!', said it. But that did not help. The sheep were afraid of unknown, foreign things. They were a bit Xenophobic, one could have said. So they decided to drop the poor one to the river.

While they all were busy doing that, they noticed that one of them was missing. They quickly rushed to their meadow and found only bloody remnants of white fleece and a pair of torn-apart wings...

XenomorphII (sheep) was lynched by the village.
Malurous the flying sheep (sheep) was eaten by the wolves.

 

[Malurous]

Well, that "fight" to stay alive was completely useless.

Second game in a row to be hunted first... Sub, I guess.

 

[Athalcor]

Well, that "fight" to stay alive was completely useless.

Second game in a row to be hunted first... Sub, I guess.

Your wish is my command. Btw, I am sending a PM to Bagricula. Should he fail to respond to it or to post in this thread before 10:30 GMT, I will let drxav sub in his place.

 

[snoopdogg]

And you decided to vote me of the three just for totally random reasons, didn't you?

I voted you because you were in the lead, I wasn't sure when the deadline was coming, and wanted to avoid a tie. And this is not the first time you've randomly insulted me in a game when I wasn't even talking to you, it's more like the 51st. You're easily the rudest player I've ever played with, including Hax. I found it funny in contrast with your recent post about how you have no problems with anyone but simply take some issue with their demeanor. Douche.

 

[Najs]

Your wish is my command. Btw, I am sending a PM to Bagricula. Should he fail to respond to it or to post in this thread before 10:30 GMT, I will let drxav sub in his place.

Not to be a douche or anything, but this is the sort of thing that happens when you don't send role PMs to everyone.

 

[EUROO7]

What did Xeno ever do to you?

 

[Najs]

What did Xeno ever do to you?

Nothing. One had to die and unfortunately the others didn't want Vainglory dead. I tried, but one man can only do so much.

 

[Davisx3m]

^Are you sure it is unfortunately? Maybe he's a sheep too!

 

[drxav]

Why are Falc and Vain still alive?

 

[Malurous]

Why are Falc and Vain still alive?

 

[trespoe]

Why are Falc and Vain still alive?

why is drxav not playing?

 

[Capt. Kiwi]

No reason at all. And let's face it, nothing has happened yet (we didn't have night 0 hunt so we cannot guess on that who the wolves might be) so there is no way anyone has any real reason to vote for anyone else except for the wolves.

Well maybe not no way, but highly unlikely instead at this point.

Of course there's not much to go on day one. Especially with no hunt. But talk would have been vital if you had survived to the endgame, because it might have shown some inconsistencies or shown that you were always acting with the intent to help the village at the time, before you could use hindsight to try and justify it.

Also I heavily disagree with Kiwi's "kill the less useful people first" sentiment. The fact that someone might be useful later on or whatever should never stop anyone from voting the person if there is a reason to do so. Besides, if you make sure to leave all valuable players alive you give no chance for others to improve, do you?

Only on an arbitrary day one vote, where I was presented with a smaller set of options to pick from and had no real evidence for any of them. Now we have a little more to go on - tie sniping tamius, for one.

Then again, I'd argue that making good plays that have the desired end results is more rewarding than getting a win (and the combination is extra nice), and I'm sure many agree. For such people, can you really point to win/loss as a sign of good/bad if optimizing your chances for a personal win isn't the number one thing you aim for?

This.

 

[Capt. Kiwi]

Vote tamius

Because the village doesn't need triple murderdeathkill when it has the wolves to do the killing. Two minutes to deadline is not a good place to ask for a three way. And I can't believe that he hasn't learnt that by now.

 

[Najs]

Vote tamius

Because the village doesn't need triple murderdeathkill when it has the wolves to do the killing. Two minutes to deadline is not a good place to ask for a three way. And I can't believe that he hasn't learnt that by now.

I hate to say this, but once more tamius has shown himself to be somewhat of a liability to the village. Lynching him is probably not a bad idea.

 

[reis91]

vote Vainglory.

Reason is Malurous having voted him into a lead, which would have put him somewhat cleared (unless wolves would sell their packmate Vainglory out). Then he changed his vote onto Xeno, but the wolves were too busy trying to assure that a villager was lynched that they could not have changed the order.

*Baaaa*

 

[Capt. Kiwi]

Yay Reasons for votes Although I'm still figuring this one out...

 

[Capt. Kiwi]

So you're saying Vainglory was the odd one out of the three by actually being a wolf, and because Malurous had probably cleared himself by (nearly) lynching him they hunted him. However, the voting then got twisted around and they didn't have time to change their hunt order, instead giving us the advantage of knowing two of the candidates identities?

 

[snoopdogg]

Or the wolves wanted Vain to stick out as the only candidate left alive so he would get the attention tomorrow. Or they had it on malurous and never switched. But the Mal hunt can certainly make him look suspicious.

Vote Falc. For now. I'd like someone who started to get run up yesterday but fell out put into the running, as well as someone who didn't get attention yesterday.

 

[reis91]

I wouldn't view it in the angle of "knowing the candidates identities" as wolves may have run-up villagers to then have to choose between villager A and B, neither of which will have negative feedback. Of course, the hunt could also have been made with this in mind. I was starting to think in a JL saving motivated hunt, but wait, there's no Seer...

Btw, couldn't this setup be gamed by orchestrating ties only? There is no Seer to save in those ties, so wolves would be forced to let go of their packmates or blow their cover.

 

[Kingepyon]

I don't think tamius is a wolf. The only times I've seen him act silly are when he is a villager (for some reason). As far as I can tell, tamius is a lot more subdued when he's a wolf. It's like when he's a villager he tries to make ties and such, but when he's a wolf he tries to blend in. /meta

I don't think tamius is a good lynch today. Unless we want to punish him for a tie.

I also don't think Vain is a good lynch. If we watch who gets run up and who switches votes Bagricula, Xeno and tamius are the ones who directly try to save him, so there is no obvious wolf saving him. If we want to run up someone, maybe someone who voted Xeno or Malurous later. Trespoe and Enkuush if we want to look at them.

Also if Vains not a wolf, OY would be a good choice, as he didn't want to touch the tie. It's a good vote for a wolf who knows their packmate isn't being run up.