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Oh well, as I said I seemed to recall you saying so. Sorry if I was wrong, I'm just not very fond of "Vote X, will explain later" with possibly never explaining anything later. And I'm pretty sure one of you younglings has done so. *frown*
I also recalled that Panzer a couple of times never came back with an explanation, but since I am not going to dig through several old games I am going to believe him.
 

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"Please do elaborate, sweetie, so I may defend myself."

Close the radio, pick up the glasses, waddle to the two previous pages and give them a read. Or ask your grandchildren to read them for you.

Hint: here's very barebones post about it.
 

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That sounds funny. Do you remember the title or have the link?

Here: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...lf-Lite-CXCII-Re-Return-of-WW-Lite!-In-Canada!

It's not that impressive though. Actually the tie caught 2 wolves and 2 villagers, but it still won the village the game because there were less players. Also, Marty won it despite not even knowing he was in.

Oh well, as I said I seemed to recall you saying so. Sorry if I was wrong, I'm just not very fond of "Vote X, will explain later" with possibly never explaining anything later. And I'm pretty sure one of you younglings has done so. *frown*

Yeah, as I said I have seen it happen. And generally, if you have a case, why not put it in the same post as the vote? But it's because of all my connection troubles - I just wanted to be sure to have a vote in.
 

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I also recalled that Panzer a couple of times never came back with an explanation, but since I am not going to dig through several old games I am going to believe him.

A couple of times? This is just ridiculous now. If I don't want to make a case, I say so. I have no trouble saying "I am completely out of ideas/voting randomly", and I do that. The only times I did something even slightly like saying "case to follow" is when I voted Hax only because I wanted to unvote him later, and I DID end up saying so.

This is important for me - I don't do dirty tricks like hide behind people believing that I will make a case. I play this game for fun, and when lying is not necessary, I don't lie, and when I commit to do something - I do it
 

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Mrs. Peabody, cornered in the rec-room and wildly swinging her cane at anyone who dares approach, appeals to the sensible residents of the retirement home...

"Why are we so religiously clinging to this theory that whoever voted tonka day one must be a wolf... Back! Back, I say! It is right there before us, in green and red, that angry residents did NOT vote for Tonka. Sure some may have, but we shouldn't let that theory, put forth by Hax, of course, blind us!"

You are such a bad she-wolf Mrs. Peabody!

VOTE BlackBishop
 

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A couple of times? This is just ridiculous now. If I don't want to make a case, I say so. I have no trouble saying "I am completely out of ideas/voting randomly", and I do that. The only times I did something even slightly like saying "case to follow" is when I voted Hax only because I wanted to unvote him later, and I DID end up saying so.

Well, I said sorry if I misremembered. My initial comment was merely because I thought seeing you do it in earlier game and I didn't want it to happen here. Nothing wrong with saying out of ideas or something, I just wanted to remind you (and others) in case there would be attempt to make-a-vote-with-case but then not have a case nor post it. I'm sure you can understand the point I was trying to make as you have seen it done, too.
 

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Close the radio, pick up the glasses, waddle to the two previous pages and give them a read. Or ask your grandchildren to read them for you.

Hint: here's very barebones post about it.

"I questioned the tie, but let it happen, deary. I was delighted that it worked out, but if I was in cahoots with these instigators, I would not have let it happen. Surely you can see the reason there. Furthermore, I should point out that an angry resident voted me day one. Surely there is a better candidate then myself... And if you don't think so then you can find yourself another euchre partner! Hmph!"
 

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Why I voted Wagonlitz:

First, it seems pretty obvious to me that Euro is JL - And no I don't fear saying that in the thread because any wolf who thought even slightly of what happened yesterday should have already come up with the same deduction.

So, what with Wagon's behavior about whether or not to make the TIE? Well, he seemed reluctant, and frequently changing thoughts. Sure, could be a villager who's not sure what's best, but I think it fits a wolf better.

Now, a mediocre wolf would simply try to avoid the tie at all costs and save one packmate while still claiming "Hey, we lynched a wolf"

But I think Wagon is a better player than that, and remember he had foresight - if he was a wolf. He would have known Euro was basically asking him to tie two wolves and calling him suspicious when he didn't - he'd have known it was the work of some JL and that refusing would be a sure way to get scanned.

Now, one thing which speaks in his favor, is that Euro defended him earlier - Maybe they're both JL. But for all the subtleties around deadline, isn't that a bit too obvious? And the thing which speaks against him is also breaking the tie on day 1, and saving a wolf in the process. Still a 50% chance that'd happen even as a villager, but it's something.

Also, any member of the wolf-tie could have sniped to himself thus wasting us a day where we'd go after the survivor, they didn't, but on paper then, it was a slightly smaller deal still.



By no means a very solid case, others are better, I agree. But I wanted to come up with my own thing - so there you have it
 

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Well, I said sorry if I misremembered. My initial comment was merely because I thought seeing you do it in earlier game and I didn't want it to happen here. Nothing wrong with saying out of ideas or something, I just wanted to remind you (and others) in case there would be attempt to make-a-vote-with-case but then not have a case nor post it. I'm sure you can understand the point I was trying to make as you have seen it done, too.

Yes, I do. I have nothing against your initial comment - it is Wagon's post that annoyed me. Because I had already said that I haven't done that, and his post read like "Yeah I don't believe you... But whatever, I don't have time to prove you wrong"

Though reading it again it's probably not what he meant...
 

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Blackbishop: 3
Vainglory [291]
madchemist [297]
Hax [325]

Hax: 3
BlackBishop [294]
EUROO7 [295]
snoopdogg [284 BlackBishop -> 330]

snoopdogg: 1
Gen. Skobelev [301]

Vainglory: 1
Wagonlitz [313]

Wagonlitz: 1
Panzer Commader [314]


Not voted: 0
 

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*sigh*

"Well, Chewy is obviously going to be hunted tonight, and if i survive a lynching today, it will come tomorrow. Let it be a tie with Hax, then. I'll just go live with my ingrate of a son, if I'm not wanted here... I hate the pea soup here, anyway."
 

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*sigh*

"Well, Chewy is obviously going to be hunted tonight, and if i survive a lynching today, it will come tomorrow. Let it be a tie with Hax, then. I'll just go live with my ingrate of a son, if I'm not wanted here... I hate the pea soup here, anyway."

How do you know Chewy will be hunted you god damn wolf! Isn't it obvious that this "bishop" is a major sinner!
 

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"It seems I am doomed. I urge you all to keep the tie - and to pay close attention to Wagon for the coming days. Best of luck to the content residents..."

Mrs. Peabody scrambles to the kitchen, for one final bowl of pea soup, the orderlies close behind her.
 

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"It seems I am doomed. I urge you all to keep the tie - and to pay close attention to Wagon for the coming days. Best of luck to the content residents..."

Mrs. Peabody scrambles to the kitchen, for one final bowl of pea soup, the orderlies close behind her.

Actually, the deadline is in 2 hours. Still plenty of time for stuff to happen
 

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[video=youtube;trk7P-9QDyc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trk7P-9QDyc[/video]
 

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I don't want to lynch BlackBishop or Hax today.

You should unvote if you are currently voting them.