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Marty has a lot riding on Cliges being a baddie, though...
What does that even mean? You know we can potentially lose today if we don't get a wolf? Of course there's a lot riding on it. I'm not guaranteeing he's a wolf, but he's my best bet. If you don't like, present a better choice.
 

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What does that even mean? You know we can potentially lose today if we don't get a wolf? Of course there's a lot riding on it. I'm not guaranteeing he's a wolf, but he's my best bet. If you don't like, present a better choice.

You said that we could ignore everything you said for the next twenty games:

And if I'm wrong about Cliges I will let you discard anything I say in werewolf for the next 20 games as useless as utterly wrong. Even though I'm not completely certain, it's past the point of no return and if Cliges is a villager I will come out of this looking the prime fool of the game and while it might not be completely fair depending on the circumstances I'll accept it. I can't help being active and forcing my viewpoint, it's just how I play.
 

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#1. Same thing would apply to split then since everyone was voting him and he turned out to be a wolf.
#2. If hes a wolf you just essentially outed yourself.
#3. There seems to be no Ga this game meaning we do not reach parity today from my understanding of the rules. and if we dont and cliges isn't a wolf then we lynch Aedan tomorrow.

Also I honestly think aedan or Rascar Capac are better choices but I'm willing to go with Marty here knowing I can say I told you so if hes wrong.
If there really is no GA in this game then shouldn't people like Rascar and Nautilu or maybe tamius be better suspects then pretty active aedan?

I find it strange that four (4) wolves really all could forget to send in orders (but remember to vote) on that day. Like marty and EURO discussed, would anyone but marty really skip a hunt on purpose just to mess with our heads? And if he did then why hasn't the trickster or one of his packmates claimed GA and contacted tonkatoy yet? Or has he?

Mr GA, if you are out there you must contact tonkatoy NOW!
 

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There is the possibility that the GA role either didn't receive or didn't notice a role PM.

Unlikely, though. And I don't think it much more likely that a wolf would skip a hunt on purpose.
 

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That's exactly what I've been struggling with. How the hell could all four wolves miss a hunt order? And especially considering THE_SPLIT was definitely active.
 

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I would love to lynch rascar today or tomorrow, but if there is no Ga then I would say marty did skip a hunt order to confuse us and that he and Aedan are the wolves. IF Cliges is a wolf then everyone should bow down to marty.
 

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I would love to lynch rascar today or tomorrow, but if there is no Ga then I would say marty did skip a hunt order to confuse us and that he and Aedan are the wolves. IF Cliges is a wolf then everyone should bow down to marty.

If I was a wolf involved in that kind of conspiracy, why would I then bring that up as a possibility? Don't forget I was the first one to suggest the possibility of wolf shenanigans.
 

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If I was a wolf involved in that kind of conspiracy, why would I then bring that up as a possibility? Don't forget I was the first one to suggest the possibility of wolf shenanigans.

to say this. Also it all depends on what Cliges is.
 

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I won't be online at deadline so everyone stay on Cliges, and for extra security everyone who isn't on cliges other then himself should switch to cliges. Also dont' follow any vote switches even if marty orchestrates it.
 

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Unvote GUG Vote Cliges
Still think GUG is better lynch, but for consolidation.
 

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I won't be online at deadline so everyone stay on Cliges, and for extra security everyone who isn't on cliges other then himself should switch to cliges. Also dont' follow any vote switches even if marty orchestrates it.
You heard it here folks. This is all tonka's idea. But fine, begrudginly I will stay on Cliges. *nods*
 

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From Day 1:

Vote Cliges

Laptop about to die, charger broken, this is all I can do today guise.
First vote after update on first day. Would he do that to a packmate? Probably not. marty and Cliges isn't in the same team but that's kinda obvious from today as well.

Forget you, marty.

VOTE MARTY99

Too busy for anything other than petty-minded spite.

Change that later, maybe.
Second vote. Revenge vote earns Cliges baddie points.

Vote Cliges Random.org
Cliges gets a second vote earky in the day.

Vote Son of Liberty

I call bullshit on that Random.org.
tonkatoy5 v1.0 to the rescue but we know he was a villager.

Vote Cliges

Twice my sign up number.
Cliges to the lead again and definite contender for day 1. No way aedan and Cliges are packmates.

Unvote Clges, Vote TonkaBoy

I call BS on your BS
sol backs off, Cliges still in the race. sol was a villager so...

Vote Cliges
Random
Cliges to the lead again and definite contender for day 1. No way Nautilu and Cliges are packmates.

I'm back. Seventy f***ing euro for a laptop charger, I could have bought my laptop second-hand for that much.

Tonka and Cliges are getting lynched, seems cool.

However, I'm going to

Unvote Cliges Vote Tonkatoy5

Like tonka I too thought there was something a little off about SoL's vote on Cliges, it's probably nothing but no-one seemed to take any notice of tonka pointing it out which was intriguing. Still probably a villager though.
marty backs off.

That's a lot of alive players that can't possible be packmates with Cliges: marty, aedan and Nautilu/Justian2. tonka is a villager and I know I am. This leaves very few options for a pack containing Cliges. :eek:
 

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Does aedan not always use that same method for voting on day 1? Maybe it's someone else. Him and aedan could definitely be packmates. Nautilu and Cliges are slightly less likely, but still possible. But it is food for thought. I meant to do this yesterday but I decided against it. I may just regret that...
 

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From day 2.

Good job by GA, but I do want to see if cliges was saved and for what reason...
Does this sound like a packmate of Cliges? Possibly.

Or the wolves failed to hunt. Now that would be a joke.
So if Cliges is a wolf maybe they did?

Is this a viable wolf pack strategy? What would be gained by it? What would it cost them?
They could sow fear, confusion, and hostility among the innocent.
They could be doing a clever ploy, where they don't hunt to make us think there's a GA, so one of them tells someone they protected them, meaning they gain an extra vote to steer the village with, which could be worth more in the long run than 1 villager closer to parity. Or I could be paranoid. Hopefully the later.
Possibly. I wouldn't bet on it though.
Is there, in your opinion, anyone in the current living roster who would take such a course of action?
Apart from me, and possibly you? No.
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vote leksu

probably will change
Cliges pushing villager leksu in the lead but the other contenders were SoL and Teep (dead villagers) so doesn't really mean anything.

did we get us a waffle?
One of SPLIT many post that day, all containing zero information about anyone still alive.
 

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Does aedan not always use that same method for voting on day 1? Maybe it's someone else. Him and aedan could definitely be packmates. Nautilu and Cliges are slightly less likely, but still possible. But it is food for thought. I meant to do this yesterday but I decided against it. I may just regret that...
I do not always use the same method. Sometimes I do twice, sometimes half, sometimes random, sometimes based off of how a previous game went. I specifically try to avoid using the same method, partly because it's boring, partly because it might be disadvantageous to stick to it, making an out of character vote suspicious.
 

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Does aedan not always use that same method for voting on day 1? Maybe it's someone else. Him and aedan could definitely be packmates. Nautilu and Cliges are slightly less likely, but still possible. But it is food for thought. I meant to do this yesterday but I decided against it. I may just regret that...
On the upside, if you are right about Cliges finding the rest of the wolves would be easy. If.
 

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From Day 3:

So much for Eurodynamics.

vote Nautilu

Just to try a different approach.
Another notch against Nautilu-Cliges in the same pack

I'm still wondering why SPLIT pushed quite so hard to lynch leksu. I think he cited activity as his justification; it's really rather hard to be "active" on Day One, and I'd say there are at least four who were less active.
ooh yea, there are people who are less active - like you - in fact this is the 4th time you posted something- I am assuming 1 was for in and at least 2 were for votes.... so how about we lynch you today and your pack mate lesku tomorrow?
I am not focusing on a minor issue, rather I getting a very strange feeling from a tamius/leksu duet...... as mentioned before I fully support lynching sol...
tamius doesn't sound like a packmate of SPLIT's here.

I could put some effort into this vote and maybe vote a baddie but that is playing the odds, if I vote myself I am certain I am voting a villager and doing my best to eliminate chance. BORK YOU ODDS!

vote jacob
vote jacob

If someone wants to die, why not allow them?

Alright then, though it isn't instant death (never a reason to do something, but that's beside the point)

I hate to make it three votes in a row for the same player, but he was the person I wanted lynched yesterday. And I haven't changed my thoughts about that very much lately.

Vote jacob.
jacob and tamius is probably not packmates and probably not Rascar/GuG and jacob either.

So if Cliges is a wolf then I can't match him with two other players for possible packmates. I really hope Cliges is the warlock...