Some thoughts, rereading day 1 a bit.
Vote Rysz
The dutch mafia gets a village crackdown upon it.
Is this why Najs was hunted?
Is the entire wolfpack dutch? (In which case - who else in this game is dutch?
)
He always tries to get me to look suspicious, so I preemptively strike him. And yes, we could do something better, like a hunt order, I suppose.
Reis, explaining his vote on Rysz.
I'm not sure his reasons are that great though.
Better make it a TIE, that way we can take out both of them.
Unvote randakar
Vote Rysz
This vote brings Rysz far into the danger zone. It doesn't last though.
I'm sorry, but that reasoning is so flawed it's ridiculous you even brought it up. What you know doesn't impact what others do, since we don't know what you know. Unless you share of course. You decided to vote yourself and proclaimed that you would be lame the whole game, thus others followed and voted you. If we have no clue who the wolves are, we can at least kill of someone who doesn't seem to want to play anyway.
Baiting like you apparently did there has no guarantees whatsoever to work, since as far as we know you might as well be a wolf pulling a j-L.
(responding to me sorta going "pft, this isn't working" and changing my self vote.)
Promising. I'll keep an eye on you.
This is the main reason why I believe Euro is not a wolf. Is Euro going to hunt someone directly after a comment like this? Really?
Interesting. Only new(ish) players following my self vote. Hrm.
The thing is, since I know I am a villager, the people who vote me are much better bets for wolves than people who are voting unknowns.
Lynching the newbies just won't do, however.
Unvote randakar
Vote Rysz
That is basically me saving myself at that point.
Hmmm, well noticed randakar, what reis said does seem like a Crovaxian slip. Oh well, no sense to continue the bandwagon:
Unvote Rysz
Vote reis91
Although I have to admit I'm torn between EURO(he annoys me) and reis. Oh well, there's still plenty of time.
It doesn't last. The "crovax", of course, sounds more like a joke to me.
(Hint: Crovax theorems haven't caught any wolves in a long time ..)
No no no!
Reis made no crovaxian slip! What nonsense is that? Randakar made something of a pun. Ofcourse wolves would hate to get noted as suspicious, but so do villagers. (look reis, I'm not the one making you suspicious, it was your comment that started it this time!)
Also Randakar's logic indeed fails (how unusual). However, it doesn't work in that direction.
Considering everyone votes randomly: wolves have a 90% chance of voting a villager, while a villager has a 80% chance of voting a villager. However, being a villager, and getting voted upon, does not give you any information about whether the voter is a wolf or not. In fact, for any random villager, the odds of a single vote being a wolf is only 20%. This is not in away combinable with the chance of voting a villager.
I blame it on a lack of sleep on Randakar's part
Also, since I don't want to continue lynching myself, I'll vote someone who pretends he knows what a crovaxian slip is, while in fact he doesn't. Therefore basing his vote on a false assumption.
Unvote Rysz
Vote esemesas
So: Esemesas is likely a villager and one of the people voting Randakar is actually a wolf.
(Exercise 1: Find out who those people were..)
Hmm.
(look reis, I'm not the one making you suspicious, it was your comment that started it this time!)
And yet you're kinda doing it now. One would think that you would be a packmate of mine trying to protect me, if they don't know better. But of course, you're actually counting on people knowing better to bail me out and preserve the pack's mastermind.
(that was a Crovax)
Odd comment. Indeed, in hindsight it looks like Rysz protecting his packmate, doesn't it?
You must read better. I only said random chances. For the rest, it was semi-humourous. Randakar's post was flawed in more than one way, also because what you say here: wolves are perhaps even more likely to vote other wolves.
The real crux here - did the last wolf vote on his packmate?
No, I'm not making you suspicious. Let's go back:
(you know what, never mind... I don't feel like having this discussion right now). Let's just say you started the chain of events, and any action by me will be explained by you in a way that leads to "you're making me suspicious".
Rysz, trying to defend himself but then realising nothing he says will make it better.
Hindsight is always 20-20 ..
Voting~about 27 hours 20 minutes until first day+night deadline.
rand 4: euro, najs, guy
rysz 2: reis, rand
reis 1: ese
euro 1: drxav
ese 1: rysz
non-voters: walrus, boris, adamus
Unvote Randy
Vote Rysz
Rysz is a confirmed waffle.
.. Euro's eyes were a lot better than mine
A suicidal randakar is a rare occurence. It could be he just has a lame role but i think not. He is posting regular and i think he is always a good run up as he will fight for his survival. And in doing so lets the village gain crucial information.
vote randakar
That, of course, ties Rysz with me. It's a bit of an odd justification though - a vote on me means he wants me dead, yet he claims it will not kill me but instead "give the village information"?
JL Announcement
Boris ze Spider is a confirmed wolf
This starts a bit of a counterwagon on Boris.
Well, Boris is definitly overconfident. I mean, JL outing already? I think not. Obviously fake. Or someone has tampered with the setup... And who does that?
Unvote randakar
Vote jacob
You know it's the right thing to do.
.. you know, it -would- be funny if Jacob turns out to be the last wolf.
Good thing Jacob hasn't listed himself as a player, I guess
Voting~about 19 hours 20 minutes until first day+night deadline.
rysz 3: reis, rand , euro
rand 2: guy, adamus
reis 1: ese
euro 1: drxav
ese 1: rysz
suicide by gm: najs
non-voters: walrus, boris
Day 1 Sucks. It always does.
unvote rand
vote rysz
Note the count at the time. That's a pretty blatant bandwagon right there. He's not keeping it anywhere close at all.
Why does he think day 1 "sucks", though? We had some pretty good information there..
I don't think this vote should clear guy. It's such a blatant bandwagon that I cannot really convince myself it's not a packmate sellout vote right now.
This vote is also why I unvoted Rysz later on.
If you vote to lynch Rysz, you vote to lynch a wolf.
Also, I swear to God Rysz, if you hunt me, I'll beat your brains out with this model replica of the Bullet.
Is this Euro the villager or Euro the wolf talking?
I'm guessing the former, but if it's the latter this is pretty funny stuff
There are too many people voting Rysz.
Unvote Rysz
Vote Boris
when's first lynch voting deadline?
Is he feeling nervous about something?
Unvote Randakar
Vote Boris
i can understand meagre voting reasons on day one but to vote on someone who will not be killed just to keep a low profile and to ADMIT to it smells alot like a stupid wolf type creature that may or may not also be a changeling. I do not like this. Im sure others wont as well.
This vote, again, runs someone else up against Rysz. Hmm.
UNVOTE EUROO
VOTE RYSZ
This is madness!
Tie breaker, and also a bit of a bandwagon vote.
Unofficial votecount:
rysz - 4 - reis, euro, drxav, guy
boris - 2 - walrus, adamus
walrus - 1 - boris
euro - 1 - najs
reis - 1 - ese
ese - 1 - rysz
randakar still hasn't voted.
Anyway, I am not a wolf, and one of the few players that get active in the endgame, so it's a bad idea to lynch me. Also, I'm not a wofl
Unvote esemesas
Vote Boris ze Spider
Boris is not a wolf, I think.
dont be so annoying!, try being unilingual and barely that.
unvote boris
vote Najs
This vote pretty much condemns Rysz.
The point of the vote is to kill. To think it does not mean death is to delude yourself.
Vote Boris
The last vote of the day. There's not much to be said, I am sure different people will read this vote differently ;-)
Agreed, but a bandwagon on anyone is never helpful, i will keep my vote on guy for the time being, its not that hes done anything wrong per say, just a huntch. If i can help, you know where the PM button is
heh, so I do.
edit: hmm. rereading my own post makes me realize just how tired I am. Babies waking up on the wrong time just messes with my mind ..
I am going to humor Euro for a bit here:
Vote walrus
