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NIGHT 1

GreatUberGeek the villager is hunted


DAY 1


Sedracus: 6
aedan777 [120]
EUROO7 [137]
madchemist [118 Sand3r205 -> 191]
Rovsea [127 Sand3r205]
BlackBishop [169 Arkasas -> 194]
Ironhead 5 [121 Rovsea -> 195]

Rovsea: 4
marty99 [135]
Sand3r205 [134 randakar -> 146]
Sedracus [149]
Wagonlitz [122 madchemist -> 197]

aedan777: 3
Gen. Skobelev [125]
randakar [124 Ironhead 5 -> 131]
Rysz [148]

Rysz: 1
Kuroten [128]

BlackBishop: 1
Arkasas [129]

marty99: 1
alxeu [160]


Sedracus the villager is lynched.


NIGHT 2

madchemist the villager is hunted.


DAY 2


alxeu: 6
Wagonlitz [216]
Sand3r205 [215 Rovsea -> 218]
randakar [205 Arkasas -> 226]
aedan777 [238]
Rovsea [239 Sand3r205 -> 247]
Ironhead 5 [207 Wagonlitz -> 248]

BlackBishop: 2
Gen. Skobelev [208]
Kuroten [213]

Rysz: 2
marty99 [211]
BlackBishop [204 Rovsea -> 243]

Wagonlitz: 1
EUROO7 [223]

Sand3r205: 1
Arkasas [244]

EUROO7: 1
Rysz [224]


not voted: 1
alxeu []



alxeu the wolf is lynched.

NIGHT 3

EUROO7 the villager is hunted.
 

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Allrighty. Was Euro hunted because of his seer claims? Or was it because his vote? If latter, he put Wagonlitz into tie with alxeu and BlackBishop which might indicate things about Wagonlitz. Then again, the bandwagon on alxeu merrily grew yesterday so it should have been pretty clear Wagonlitz wasn't going to get lynched (if he even is a wolf, mind).


Right. A three way tie, and very little activity.
Not a great game to have dedicated to me, guys ;-)

Let's move my vote somewhere useful, anyway. This is starting to look like a throwaway.

Unvote Arkasas
Vote Alxeu


Best choice of the three frontrunners: Blackbishop is new enough (to me) to give him the benefit of the doubt, and wagonlitz (usually) talks, at least. Alxeu however has neither going for him and a decent case against him.

Third voter on alxeu; goodie points on his way for breaking tie.


Vote alxeu

Because he's being as useless as usual, no one really stands out as suspicious, Euro and Wagonlitz have votes with pretty much no explanation, and Bishop plays rarely enough that I don't want to lynch him day 2 without sufficient reasons.

4-2 lead over others? Reasons are okish, perhaps, but almost makes me think he saw easy-lynch packmate going to the gallows and wanting to get the goodie points from it. And aedan777 has tendency to throw packmates under bus so definitely something to keep in mind. Then again, he did help lynch alxeu, so...


OK, I am tempted to suggest Sander as an alternative to alxeu, but I don't want to waste my vote. In my opinion, he reacted underwhelmingly to the pressure I attempted to put on him Day 1, as not too much pressure was really levied against him. What is suspicious to me is that so far he has tried to justify his votes on me with some rather poor reasoning, although I may be biased in this situation.

Regardless on how people feel about Sander, I'd like to know how peeps feel about a second candidate to alxeu as well. BB seems like he could be an option, but I'd really like to hear from everybody on this.

Vote Sand3r205

Sander as alternative to alxeu? Perhaps sensible seeing how alxeu is getting a bit runaway but interesting how he's searching for alternative for alxeu. Perhaps villager looking to keep it close, perhaps looking for a way out for packmate.


Sub.

Alright, my caliber of stupidity is such as to where I feel someone else is better suited to play than me. Why? I thought (incorrectly) that many people had failed to vote, for some reason, and therefore they would vote after me. I screwed up badly in this sense, and I feel it is better if I just let someone else have a chance.

Hmm. Is alxeu already giving up survival in this game with this post?


For me the worst thing you did was to say you would later change your vote and then not do it. That opens all sorts of excuses you can later use. Hadn't you said that I would be way less interested in lynching you. SO in the future don't say you will change your vote if you aren't sure whether or not you can.

Wagonlitz rationalises his vote quite sensibly. I'd perhaps see this more as a goodie post but who knows.


For now, I'm sticking to my guns that the tie would have done this reunion harm. In that spirit, I will push to lynch one who pushed to make it happen...

Unvote Rovsea
Vote Rysz

BlackBishop makes a big post (which is always nice) but his vote is rather odd. He says he's against ties, doesn't want to put anybody into really challenging alxeu's position but puts a vote on Rysz who's more or less out of race at this point. Rather odd behaviour from my point.


Hello, friends. Sorry I've been absent today, I was consumed first by the Big and later by work.

Out of those proposed... BlackBishop I think has acquitted himself pretty nicely with that analysis. For now, anyway. Wagon may or may not be similarly useful. I feel like alxeu and Sander are our best bets at the moment, so I will

Vote Sander

as I believe alxeu is farther up in the votes.

He is. And I agree at this point BlackBishop did a nice post so rather typical vote for tie-lover. It cuts the headstart of alxeu the wolf but it's also something villager without info might do.


"You mean to tell me you've all been slapping each other with dragon dicks with a lady present?! For shame!"

I believe for slapping they have used more than just dragon accessories... :ninja:


Not sure what the vote count is, but TIEing remains a poor option, IMO.

Unvote Sander, Vote alxeu
CAWZ

Hmm. It's not tie at this point. Tie wouldn't necessarily be that great option but 45 minutes before deadline putting one into big lead is also questionable - unless that's way to save him. Then again, as quiet as this game is, not many votes would be likely.


Is there something I'm not understanding here? You start to get bandwagoned, so instead of fighting back, you ask to sub out? So, what, some other poor schmuck can get lynched in your place? How about we save you the trouble, and just lynch you?

UNVOTE WAGONLITZ, VOTE ALXEU?

Meh, got ninja'd by Rovsea. Still, my vote stands, unless or until Alxeu shows some backbone and spirit in fighting the charges against him.

At the same time as Rovsea vote. Ironhead 5 is his irascible self here so not out of the character.


Seems we're going to lynch him regardless at this point, so moot question. At this point he's an unlikely wolf I think, but he needs to go anyways. Hopefully we can figure out something better for tomorrow.

What made you think he's unlikely wolf?




And yes, a bit surprising result. Now then, seems like somebody has to open the voting. I'm tempted to vote one of the alxeu voters (yes yes, wolf lynch and all) but notice how he had no serious alternatives for most of the day. And I bet keen packmates would be running to get their shots at lynching him to appear goodies (mostly looking at aedan777 for putting alxeu into big lead, something that without good suspicion shouldn't exactly be smiled favourably upon, Rovsea for his search of alternative candidate and then going for alxeu when none rises and possibly Ironhead 5). The other options would be quiet throwaway voters

I think I'll

vote Rovsea


as he's one of the unneeded voters in alxeu lynch and he was searching for alternative candidate to alxeu earlier. Also his day 1 vote was on villager and helped get some unknowns off the hook.
 

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((Sorry skobie, just thursdays are a little busy for me and I thought I already posted it :/



Will update histroy in ze morning))

Don't sweat, it wasn't meant as huge evidence to condemn you in a witch trial. I was just (as usual) offering self-evident advice so I would appear more knowledgeable. :p

And if you find you can't do update in timely fashion, it's best to announce it in thread beforehand. That way people know about it and avoid speculation which tends to lead to grumbling.
 

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not voted: 11
Rysz []
Arkasas []
Wagonlitz []
Sand3r205 []
randakar []
aedan777 []
Rovsea []
Ironhead 5 []
Kuroten []
marty99 []
BlackBishop []
 

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I think I'll

vote Rovsea


as he's one of the unneeded voters in alxeu lynch and he was searching for alternative candidate to alxeu earlier. Also his day 1 vote was on villager and helped get some unknowns off the hook.
I am going to eat my words from before the update was posted. With alxeu being a wolf, I like the cut of Rovsea's jib. BlackBishop looks strong now, too, as the price of the alxeu wagon had been a BlackBishop lynching.

I am intrigued by alxeu's Day 1 vote -- a throwaway on marty99. Is alxeu sophisticated enough to fool us with his vote pattern?

VOTE MARTY99 -- nothing that marty99 did, but rather what alxeu did back on Day 1.
 

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vote Rovsea


as he's one of the unneeded voters in alxeu lynch and he was searching for alternative candidate to alxeu earlier. Also his day 1 vote was on villager and helped get some unknowns off the hook.
As I said, I wasn't sure what the vote count was, I thought alxeu was ahead, but as my post implied, I wanted to knock it out of TIEing range, besides which, nobody has voted a confirmed wolf Day 1, and saying that my Day 1 vote got some "unknowns" off the hook is clearly untrue, as it was first and foremost a self-preservation vote, as the ending votecount attests.
 

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I am going to eat my words from before the update was posted. With alxeu being a wolf, I like the cut of Rovsea's jib. BlackBishop looks strong now, too, as the price of the alxeu wagon had been a BlackBishop lynching.

I am intrigued by alxeu's Day 1 vote -- a throwaway on marty99. Is alxeu sophisticated enough to fool us with his vote pattern?

VOTE MARTY99 -- nothing that marty99 did, but rather what alxeu did back on Day 1.

Hmm. Like I said, Rovsea could go either way, but I didn't like the combo of "search alternative candidates + pile on lynched wolf". You find him more likely villager, then?

And now that there's somebody to talk with, how do you feel Aedan overtly going for alxeu yesterday? Or the quiet ones?

Personally I think more people should speak up. Especially Kuroten unless she wants to be spanked (
204.gif
). As for alxeu voting, I guess he might vote packmates on throwaways on day 1 but not that regularly. So it could go either way, I think (duh).



As I said, I wasn't sure what the vote count was, I thought alxeu was ahead, but as my post implied, I wanted to knock it out of TIEing range, besides which, nobody has voted a confirmed wolf Day 1, and saying that my Day 1 vote got some "unknowns" off the hook is clearly untrue, as it was first and foremost a self-preservation vote, as the ending votecount attests.

I'll give you that self-preservation. And by "voting unknown" I mean that now we know you preferred Sedracus the villager over Rovsea the unknown (yes yes, self-defense so that is more understandable) and aedan777 the unknown. On day 1 only wolves would know something extra but as our knowledge increases, we look at the history of the game to unravel what's really been going on (as you are surely know). Sure, villagers vote villagers all the time but like I said, your search for alternative candidate + piling on alxeu caught my attention. I'm not calling on bandwagon on you and seems Ironhead 5 thinks you're more likely goodie than baddie which is fair enough.

Anyways, who do you find most suspect at this point?
 

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Anyways, who do you find most suspect at this point?
The only thing that really jumps out to me on the Vote record side of things is Ironhead being the last person on the winning bandwagon two days in a row.

And apparently both Kuroten and Arkasas made some blatant throw-away votes as well, and on both days to boot.
 

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I am going to eat my words from before the update was posted. With alxeu being a wolf, I like the cut of Rovsea's jib. BlackBishop looks strong now, too, as the price of the alxeu wagon had been a BlackBishop lynching.

I am intrigued by alxeu's Day 1 vote -- a throwaway on marty99. Is alxeu sophisticated enough to fool us with his vote pattern?

VOTE MARTY99 -- nothing that marty99 did, but rather what alxeu did back on Day 1.
Alxeu is inactive, but he's not that stupid.
 

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And apparently both Kuroten and Arkasas made some blatant throw-away votes as well, and on both days to boot.

I'm not certain voting Sander based on your suspicions was a throwaway...

That's a bit suss. I agree with Skobie.

Vote Rovsea
 

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Alxeu is inactive, but he's not that stupid.
Really? In the big game, Nautilu sent me a PM saying that if the following list of players responded to my phishing scam, they were probably baddies because they were too noob to fake the funk. Alxeu was on the list.
 

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Really? In the big game, Nautilu sent me a PM saying that if the following list of players responded to my phishing scam, they were probably baddies because they were too noob to fake the funk. Alxeu was on the list.
Nautilu probably think Alxeu is a noob because he does so little, but he is relatively experienced. Another thing he is, is extremely cautious.
But, whatever, you've already cast suspicion on me as a villager in two games in the last week, on absolutely terrible arguments, so I don't expect I'll be able to change your mind here. How many villagers in a row have you lynched? 5? 6? I think I'll try my luck convincing other players. :p
 

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Alxeu is inactive, but he's not that stupid.

Really? In the big game, Nautilu sent me a PM saying that if the following list of players responded to my phishing scam, they were probably baddies because they were too noob to fake the funk. Alxeu was on the list.

Nautilu probably think Alxeu is a noob because he does so little, but he is relatively experienced. Another thing he is, is extremely cautious.
But, whatever, you've already cast suspicion on me as a villager in two games in the last week, on absolutely terrible arguments, so I don't expect I'll be able to change your mind here. How many villagers in a row have you lynched? 5? 6? I think I'll try my luck convincing other players. :p

Alxeu = wolf
Marty says Alxeu is not noob
Ironhead says Alxeu is wolf
Marty says Alxeu is noob, however disagrees with Ironhead

Dafuq? What is not right here. Protection Alxeu or not my vote is on you. Thereby, you had a throwaway vote

Vote Marty99
 

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"I wouldn't be surprised if Alxeu was thrown to the wolves so to speak, as attention was being drawn on him. In hindsight, his opt for a sub was unusual and pretty telling of his wolfishness. It is likely that the we will find some wolves in the run up for Alxeu, and I want to test my theory on that day one tie. I would prefer Aedan, but seems the greater chance lies with this one."

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Where did I say he was a noob? Dude, I said literally the opposite of that. Quote the sentence please.

2nd post: I see you said that Natilu thinks he's noob. Making my proof stronger you tried/trying defending Alxeu.

1st post: You did not say he wasn't noob, but you did say he wasn't stupid.
 

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2nd post: I see you said that Natilu thinks he's noob. Making my proof stronger you tried/trying defending Alxeu.

1st post: You did not say he wasn't noob, but you did say he wasn't stupid.

Marty says Alxeu is noob
Where did I, Marty99, say Alxeu was noob. Not Nautilu, me. You said I said he was a noob.

And wait, are you accusing me of defending Alxeu? He is already known to be a dead wolf! What is wrong with you? :rofl:
 

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Where did I, Marty99, say Alxeu was noob. Not Nautilu, me. You said I said he was a noob.

And wait, are you accusing me of defending Alxeu? He is already known to be a dead wolf! What is wrong with you? :rofl:

I see you do not understand my view and I see you didn't clearly read what I meant in my second post. Read it better. And indeed I am accusing you for defending Alxeu, eventhough when he's dead already.