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Gen. Skobelev

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So many subs. :p I believe that this has more subs than an average game of yours, Skobie?

How many subs has it been? I doubt it'd be a match for the mighty ISIS with 6 subs... :glare:
 

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Screw it. We have another day to parity, and I'd rather a final showdown have active people if we're wrong.

Vote Lord Strange

Though I'm still cautious about Kiwi, he's put in more effort in this one day than Lord Strange has this whole game. Plus it's not like Lord Strange has a whole lot to go on for defense. Yeah the vote on al-Aziz was at a crucial time, but I've never played with him before, so perhaps he's a ruthless packmate and decided al-Aziz was going to be lynched for her defense. Which is probably what I would've done as a wolf.
 

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I'd like to apologize for my inactivity - moving back for the holidays took longer than expected, and left me exhausted.

The reason I missed the first day was because I was expecting a PM to tell me the game had started. I did not, so forgot to check back here. This was foolish of me, as I'd forgotten some GMs played by "If you don't get a PM, you're just a villager". However, this does lead to the proof that I'm not a wolf, because I didn't get a PM telling me that a)the game had started b)I was a wolf - how many wolves do you know, in Lite games, who've missed early votes. Also, Kiwi can probably remember, as well as my skill in inactivity, when I have a role, I become much more active - I've been lynched (correctly and incorrectly) on such grounds before.

The other major reason for inactivity is I've never played with most of you before - I'm learning how Werewolf in the year 2014 works, what the dynamics are, and don't get any of the in-jokes any more.

As to the game, I'm still going with my intuition from yesterday, and voting aedan. Why? In all honesty, I couldn't point to any single post, but my gut says he's suspicious in some manner.
Vote aedan777
 

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Well that's all been quite interesting, but why on Earth is no one voting Gorganslayer? This his entire contribution, minus one spam post night zero and an OOC post:

Vote happycats

Random.org

i think that rovsea is saying how the wolves have been hunting the active analysts, and rovsea tends to be active when he is a wolf, and trying to deflect blame on to other active players for that reason

vote rovsea


was quiet around tie because i was offline, posted noooo! because i thought that the tie was still broken when we where going for one

VOTE HAPPYCATS - want him to explain his voting a bit more

okay happycats thanks for the explanation, i'll move my vote if other candidates come up :)

He never did, even when two interesting candidates al-Aziz and zweikaiserbund came up...

Agreed, alexu why offer no explanation and insight into your tie- breaking despite people telling you to vote leondark you push one ahead?

Instead casting suspicion on the third member, alxeu, without get involved.

Akso aziz I find it odd that you find me suspicous, all the action happens qjen im offline, my vote on day 1 was a standard vote, I didnt use it tp run up other candidates because it doesnt help, while if I pushed falc ahead it would look like self-preservation and im a villager willing to sacrifice myself for more active players. DAY 2 I was going to vote leondark as I thought the tie was broken but ended up being after deadline (which was lucky/unlucky depending how you look at it)

Happy to distance himself from al-Aziz by defending himself, not by actually accusing her.

Too be honest I really dont have much of an idea, I thought happy was but now im not sure.... with Skobie being quite + subbing into MC cant get a read, while kaiserohaib does seem suss that could just be cause hes subbed. And as people have said the hunt isnt aedans style

Im personally for tying kaiser with someone whos been less active like xarkan, he always seemed active to me and tbh I forgot he was playing this round, so I think we should get xarkan or another quiet one too talk.(while keeping pressure on kai)

Leaving it all to others to make their own mess.

Sorry I thought I voted.....

vote xarkan

Also I have been more active 2nite

Unvote Xarkan, Vote lord strange

Edit: fire away with ur questions

I should have asked him when he could reply. Hopefully he's in eastern Australia, deadline should be daylight there.

okay the gorganslayer first ever votecount:
lord strange: 1
-gorganslayer
Cpt. Kiwi: 1
-madchemist
GUG: 1
-cpt Kiwi

Not voted:
GUG
Alexu
Lord strange

personally i think a three way tie is bad with the number of villagers we have left, that kills of 1/2 our members and if we get 1 wolf (statistically appropriate) they only need to hunt 1 and they have parity.
also i would like to question Alexu and lord strange who have been active but not voted (waiting to start a bandwagon or snipe maybe?)

I never actually said to vote Lord Strange either :p Not sure why alxeu likes my "case" either. I do suspect Lord Strange would have been here day one if he had a role PM, is it true villagers didn't get them at gane start?

Unvote Rovsea/GreatUberGeek
Vote Gorganslayer
 

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Check out Fifty Shades generator. :p
 

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Gorganslayer doesn't look good, but few do. Too many people haven't contributed much or have been subbed for us to have great cases for or against people. Case against against Lord Strange, GUG, Xarkan/Kiwi, and gorganslayer all have merit to them, but only two of them can be wolves. Kiwi's the greatest threat as a wolf, but also the greatest asset if he's a villager. In my biased opinion Lord Strange looks worse for going after me, when I know I'm a villager, but that's neither known to everyone, nor a great argument. I'm not against lynching any of them, other than maybe Kiwi, but the village need to decide on a candidate, to prevent wolves from directing us on to a villager who has merely acted suspicious. Lord Strange has the most votes right now, but he isn't necessarily the best candidate. The thing about not getting a PM could be a point in his favor, but since it took him so long to give this explanation it could be a fabrication.
 

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Alxeu votes Kaiser D1, who surprise surprise! Turns out to be a wolf. Alibi vote?
Vote GUG

T-T-T-Tiebreaker!
Breaks the tie, for a very odd reason. Ends up lynching a villager.
Vote Happycats

Pushed strongly for a tie yesterday, which he pushes off as bad voting. I doubt it, to be honest. Let's see if my hunch pays off.
His hunch did not pay off, as Happycats was a villager. And if I may say, the tie was a good idea, we just caught the wrong people.
Why did you vote GUG yesterday?
To break the tie. I didn't think better than the other in terms of lynching, and with deadline approaching, a silent vote on a third candidate in protest was not the most effective way to proceed about things.
Happycats asks Alxeu why he broke the tie, and he gives what I think is a rather lame answer.
Unvote Happycats
Vote Kaisersohaib



Holy cow I got voted up quickly.
Again. Nothing really to back up his vote besides self-preservation, and another vote on a wolf. Either Alxeu is really lucky or he knows who the wolves are.
You were third to vote on me within an hour.
The third voter stratagem. Kinda an odd thing to use at this point.
Unvote Kaisersohaib
Vote Al-Aziz

This is getting ridiculous now. Sure, I might not be cleared at all, but I am certainly not jumping onto a vote wagon that sprung up in less than an hour.
Unvotes Kai to vote yet another wolf.
the problem is, if Al-Aziz is a villager as well, we risk the wolves sniping me, or someone else, into a tie, which is death for us all. And don't forget, two people haven't even voted yet.
Then proceeds to defend said wolf.
I'm afraid of that, and I'm certainly afraid of the two people who haven't voted. I mean, if they are villagers, we're screwed. They really need to come on and vote.

aedan, I honestly don't know what you want from me. I'm trying to help you guys salvage this game, but at the moment I really have no good defense. Vote me if you want, but you are undermining the village by not consolidating your vote. Hell, I'd prefer if you guys consolidated votes on me. I'd rather not see this village lose in a snipefest at deadline today.
Says he is trying to salvage game, but his posts really don't prove that.
Vote aedan777

I like the analysis. Thanks JK, and thanks happycats.

Yeah, I didn't enjoy aedan's attempt to tie when there was a risk of vote swap.

He's my most suspicious person right now.
Coasts on other people's cases.
Just made it in time.

I don't think Kaiser is a wolf. Not fighting hard enough for survival, even in a quiet game.
As I've got 3 minutes to post, I won't go into a full explanation, but I think aedan is a wolf based on their behaviour over the past couple of days.

Vote aedan777
Lord Strange votes Aedan instead of Kaiser. Somewhat odd, considering Kai basically outed himself.

Contrary to your belief Gorgan, I was not waiting to snipe, I was waiting for more people to say something. I like Kiwi's analysis, and therefore, at the moment, am

Vote Lord Strange
Votes LS. More coasting, says he wasn't waiting to snipe.
I'd like to apologize for my inactivity - moving back for the holidays took longer than expected, and left me exhausted.

The reason I missed the first day was because I was expecting a PM to tell me the game had started. I did not, so forgot to check back here. This was foolish of me, as I'd forgotten some GMs played by "If you don't get a PM, you're just a villager". However, this does lead to the proof that I'm not a wolf, because I didn't get a PM telling me that a)the game had started b)I was a wolf - how many wolves do you know, in Lite games, who've missed early votes. Also, Kiwi can probably remember, as well as my skill in inactivity, when I have a role, I become much more active - I've been lynched (correctly and incorrectly) on such grounds before.

The other major reason for inactivity is I've never played with most of you before - I'm learning how Werewolf in the year 2014 works, what the dynamics are, and don't get any of the in-jokes any more.

As to the game, I'm still going with my intuition from yesterday, and voting aedan. Why? In all honesty, I couldn't point to any single post, but my gut says he's suspicious in some manner.
Vote aedan777
And finally, a semi-suspicious post by LS, where he claims he didn't get the PM, thus didn't realize the game had started. However, looking back, this is not what he used in D1. He said that he thought it was starting later. Two stories that conflict.
Also votes Aedan, 2nd day in a row.
What has emerged from this is growing suspicions in Alxeu's and LS's directions. I think we should focus on Alxeu.
Vote Alxeu
 

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The thing with Alxeu is he was up alongside Kaiser and al-Aziz, whatever he did himself. You need to look at what people do to him as well as what he does to others. Which admittedly I haven't done for Gorganslayer yet.
 

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The thing with Alxeu is he was up alongside Kaiser and al-Aziz, whatever he did himself. You need to look at what people do to him as well as what he does to others. Which admittedly I haven't done for Gorganslayer yet.

Was he run up with Kaiser? We never got an official votecount, but I think the only votes yesterday were on Kaiser and I. And 2 wolves being run up could explain the ease with which people pushed up one candidate over another. Though Kaiser wanted to lynch him rather than Al-Aziz, so that theory is kind of flawed. Alxeu could be a wolf, but I don't like the case against him as well as those against our current candidates, especially against Lord Strange and gorganslayer.
 

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Was he run up with Kaiser? We never got an official votecount, but I think the only votes yesterday were on Kaiser and I. And 2 wolves being run up could explain the ease with which people pushed up one candidate over another. Though Kaiser wanted to lynch him rather than Al-Aziz, so that theory is kind of flawed. Alxeu could be a wolf, but I don't like the case against him as well as those against our current candidates, especially against Lord Strange and gorganslayer.

No, the same day as al-Aziz and the first go at Kaiser. Three at once seems unlikely.
 

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No, the same day as al-Aziz and the first go at Kaiser. Three at once seems unlikely.

Kaiser got one vote that day, from Alxeu, so not quite three at one go, but still in alxeu's favour.
 

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This page alone has seen but 8 hours of activity. Shameful. :p
 

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This page alone has seen but 8 hours of activity. Shameful. :p

This day's actually been pretty good because even if it doesn't have tons of posts, most of the surviving players have put out a fair bit in their posts. And you're hardly in any position to say anything. You subbed out, and before that had like 3 game related posts.
 

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This day's actually been pretty good because even if it doesn't have tons of posts, most of the surviving players have put out a fair bit in their posts. And you're hardly in any position to say anything. You subbed out, and before that had like 3 game related posts.

I subbed out so that I wouldn't be inactive, so I actually did the best thing I could.
 

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Lord Strange: 3
Gorganslayer [512 Xarkan/Kiwi->526 Lord Strange]
alxeu [536]
Aedan [505 Xarkan/Kiwi->524 Unvote->542]

Gorganslayer: 1
Xarkan/Kiwi [515 GUG 2.0->548]

Xarkan/Kiwi: 1
Madchemist [528]

Aedan: 2
GUG2.0 [499]
Lord Strange [543]

GUG2.0 tried to vote alxeu in post 551, but he didn't unvote me.